مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : (جمـــــــــــــلة )للمدرسين فقط


نبيل موريس جورج
28-08-2009, 11:59 PM
5. It’s terribly hot in here. Please can you turn on the _____?
a. heater b. lights c. parts d. air conditioning

مطلوب التعليق علي هذة الجملة .

كلما قرأت هذة الجملة أشعر انها خطأ ياريت لو في مرجع يقول انها صح !!!!!!!!!!!

alshahed
29-08-2009, 01:02 AM
أزيك يا استاذ نبيل
الجملة صحيحة ومصطلح in here صحيح إن شاء الله

Samy Farid Mekhael
29-08-2009, 01:02 AM
مستر نبيل تحياتي وشكري علي جهودك العظيمة واعمالك الرائعة
اعتقد الجملة سليمة 100 % الحل air conditioning والمقصود تشغيل " نظام التكييف "
يصلح معه افعال مثل install , Turn on or off )

نبيل موريس جورج
29-08-2009, 01:07 AM
يا جماعة انا عارف الجملة صح لاني بحثت علي النت قبل ما اكتب المشاركة ولقيتها في بعض المواقع ولكن مش راكبه معايا ولذلك محتاج مرجع يقول ان here ممكن تسبق بــــــــــ in

alshahed
29-08-2009, 01:18 AM
here ممكن يسبقها in
قالت لى هذه المعلومة مدرسة بريطانية عندما كنت أدرس فى المعهد البريطانى

GALAXYY
29-08-2009, 01:33 AM
%100 correct
we heard it millions of times in eng movies
it is sort of idiom or collocation

GALAXYY
29-08-2009, 01:35 AM
ايه رائيك فى
i am so very tired
in between
the very same
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Samy Farid Mekhael
29-08-2009, 01:43 AM
I think " in here means in this place ( room for example "

ابو كريمان
29-08-2009, 02:58 AM
اول مره اسمع عنها

Hamada Sabra
29-08-2009, 03:06 AM
in = indoors

here = the total place ( indoors and out doors

in here = indoors in this area
تقبل تحياتي حبيبي مستر موريس

مستر/ عصام الجاويش
29-08-2009, 03:40 AM
جزاكم الله خيرا على
هذاالنقاش الجميل

adam_adam2114
29-08-2009, 03:59 AM
to my dear brothers
the sentence is 100% correct
it is commonly used
(you go, and i will wait in here)
every day language
please accept my true respect to you all

alaaelmassry
29-08-2009, 05:37 AM
جزاك الله خيرا

مصطفى محجوب ثابت محمد
29-08-2009, 06:27 AM
بصراحة الجملة صحيحة

نبيل موريس جورج
29-08-2009, 08:24 AM
* شـــــــــــــــــــــــاكر جدا للجميع

-- %100 correct
we heard it millions of times in eng movies
it is sort of idiom or collocation

شاكر لحضرتك مستر GALAXYYعلي الاهتمام
ولكن كيف اقول للطلبة مرجعي للمعلومة فيلم !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!وما علاقة الامثلة بالجمــــــــــلة هل تعتقد انهم نفس الوضع ؟ام ذكرتهم حضرتك بأعتبار انهم من غرائب اللغة ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

من يقرأ سؤالي جيدا يدرك اني محتاج لمرجع يثبت صحة الجملة ولم اقل انها خطأ قلت اشعر انها خطأ .................! لذلك عرضت الجملة حتي يساعدني الاساتذة الافاضل في الحصول علي مرجع يقول ان (الظرف يسبق بحرف جر لاني بصراحة دائما بقول الطلبة غير كده ومش عارف لو حد سألني في الجملة دي هقوله ا يــــــــــــــــه؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
لذلك طرحتها حتي يذكر احد مرجع او نتفق انها اصطلاح علي حسب المرجع
محتاج مرجع واكون شاكر للجميع

ابو خليل البرنس
29-08-2009, 10:41 AM
الطالب ليس محتاج مرجع علشان يقتنع ....... مرجعه الوحيد الاستاذ ..... الاستاذ نفسه المفروض يبقي مرجع للطالب

كمال فهمي
29-08-2009, 10:47 AM
i can see him over there

Hamada Sabra
29-08-2009, 11:35 AM
يا مستر موريس أنت فعلا انسان الراقي في الحوار
ولكن محتاجين مرجع فعلا بس لما تكون الجملة غريبة و لكن هي ليست غريبة اساسا ويبدوا هذا من الاعراب
المثال الذي ذكرة الاخ كمال فهمي يؤيد كلامي السابق" over there"
"over " here is a place within a larger place"there

In here
In is a smaller place within a larger one "here
finally, we can explain it to the students through syntax

نبيل موريس جورج
29-08-2009, 01:44 PM
الطالب ليس محتاج مرجع علشان يقتنع ....... مرجعه الوحيد الاستاذ ..... الاستاذ نفسه المفروض يبقي مرجع للطالب


بالفعل لابد ان يكون المدرس مرجع للطالب وهذا ما اسعي اليه من خلال النقاش مع الساده الافاضل اساتذة المنتدي ولكن اللغة الانجليزية بحر وانا عن نفسي مازلت علي الشاطئ بارك الله فيكم

نبيل موريس جورج
29-08-2009, 02:07 PM
يا مستر موريس أنت فعلا انسان الراقي في الحوار
ولكن محتاجين مرجع فعلا بس لما تكون الجملة غريبة و لكن هي ليست غريبة اساسا ويبدوا هذا من الاعراب
المثال الذي ذكرة الاخ كمال فهمي يؤيد كلامي السابق" over there"
"over " here is a place within a larger place"there

In here
In is a smaller place within a larger one "here
finally, we can explain it to the students through syntax


مستر حمادة شاكر جدا لاهتمام حضرتك وبجد أعتز بمعرفة حضرتك .
الموضوع يتمثل في الاتي :
* لو طالب سأل ليه home لاتسبق بحرف جر وخاصة لو جاء قبلها فعل يعبر عن الحركة (go-come-return .........)
هنقول ايه .......................؟ طبعا ده مش امتحان ولا سؤال موجه لمستر حمادة ( لانه بالتحديد من الناس الذين احترمهم جدا و التي لاتقول معلومة الا موثقة وهذة شهادة بناء علي نقاش سابق لحضرته فيما يخص نقطة في كتابه )
اعتقد الرد معروف للجميع ؟ولكن ممكن نفتح حوار ............ وتبقي حاجة تنشط موضوع كنا نعشقه في المنتدي !!!!!!!!!!!
أسف ممكن الغلط في تفسيري لها ياريت اسمع رد الاساتذة
لان الرد علي هذة النقطة هو سبب عدم اقتناعي الكامل بصيغة الجملة فلماذا لم يقل
It’s terribly hot here
ام هي اصطلاح ولو اصطلاح القيها فين ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟اسف علي الاطالة واتمني ان تكون وجهة نظري اتضحت

foxthegreatest
29-08-2009, 02:12 PM
if you say here it will be correct .in here is also correct but the meaning is not the same .there is a small difference in here means the place is closed

mr.ahmedabdelwahed
29-08-2009, 02:14 PM
اتفق تماما مع الاستاذ حماده فى رايه
ونضيف اضافه بسيطة


بعض استخداماتها فى اللغة الانجليزية فى ملف وورد

http://www.multiupload.com/T4BCVC4E3O

Nasr Fouad
29-08-2009, 05:18 PM
الاستاذ الفاضل / مستر نبيل الجملة سمعتها كتير فى ال spoken American English و بصراحة لم اقراها فى اى مرجع و بالتالى فهى من وجهة نظرى تعتبر لغة دارجة

mr ashraf ezzat
29-08-2009, 08:29 PM
يا جماعة انا عارف الجملة صح لاني بحثت علي النت قبل ما اكتب المشاركة ولقيتها في بعض المواقع ولكن مش راكبه معايا ولذلك محتاج مرجع يقول ان here ممكن تسبق بــــــــــ in


here S1 W1http://www.ldoceonline.com/imgs/_20_h_FB_EB_20_24_A0h_FBr_.gif

1 in this place: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifWhat are you doing here?
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifShall we eat here?
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifCome here for a minute.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifThis switch here controls the lights.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifMy friend here will show you the way.
up/down/in/out here http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifWhat was she doing up here in the woods?
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifWould you close the window? It's cold in here.

http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifCome on. I'm over here.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifWill you be back here tonight?
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifThere are no good pubs round here.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifI'm resigning here and now.


2 at this point in time: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifSpring is here at last.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere is your chance to change your life.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere is where the trouble starts.


3 here and there

scattered around or happening in several different places: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifThe house just needs a bit of paint here and there.


4 spoken here is/are something

also here it is/here they are a) used when you are giving something to someone, or showing something to them: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere's the money you lent me.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere are some pictures of John when he was little.

b) used when you have found something you were looking for: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHave you seen my pen? Oh, here it is.



5 spoken used when you are giving or offering something to someone: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere, have my chair. I don't mind standing.


6 spoken here you are/here you go

used when you are giving something to someone: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere you are, a boxful of tools.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gif'Here you go.' Callum handed her a glass of orange juice.


7 spoken at this point in a discussion: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere I'd like to add a note of caution.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifThere is no space to discuss this issue here.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifI'm not sure what you mean here.


8 spoken here goes!

also here we go used when you are going to try to do something difficult or dangerous, and you do not know what will happen: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifI've never ridden a motorbike before, so here goes!


9 spoken here we go

used when you are starting to do something or when something is starting to happen: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifRight, here we go, the game's starting.


10 spoken here's to somebody/something

used when you are going to drink something to wish someone good luck, show your respect for them etc: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere's to the happy couple.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere's to your new job.


11 spoken here he/she etc is

also somebody/something is here used to say that someone or something has arrived: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere they are, late as usual.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifAh, look - here's the postman.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifTony's here for his messages.


12 spoken here we are

used when you have finally arrived somewhere you were travelling to: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere we are - home at last.


13 spoken here comes somebody/something

used when you can see something or someone arriving: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere comes lunch.


14 spoken British English used to get someone's attention or to show that you are annoyed: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere! Just what do you think you're doing?


15 here we go again

informal used when something unpleasant is beginning to happen again: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifMost of us are peaceful and decent, but here we go again, in our fifth war of this century.


16 here to stay

if something is here to stay, it has become a part of life and will continue to be so: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifMobile phones are definitely here to stay.


17 here, there, and everywhere

informal in many different places: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifI spent the weekend driving the kids here, there, and everywhere.


18 neither here nor there

not important: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifYou never liked him much, did you?' 'What I think about him is neither here nor there. He's your friend.'


19 the here and now

the present time in the here and now http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifTo be able to live fully in the here and now, one must first learn how to honour the past.



20 somebody/something is here to do something

used to say what someone or something's duty or purpose is: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifWe're here to serve you.


21 here he/she etc is (doing something)

used to describe the present situation, especially one you did not expect to happen: http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/628/entry/pronsentencea.gifHere I am in Fiji!

eng_lish
10-06-2011, 12:16 AM
بارك الله فيكم جميعا

waleed mohamd
24-07-2011, 01:07 PM
thanks alot

ابو بيشو
28-08-2011, 10:11 AM
يمكن ان نستخدم كلمة home كاسم وفى هذه الحالة نضع عادى حرف جر
I stayed at home.
ويمكن استخدامها كظرف وفى هذه الحالة لا يمكننا وضع حرف جر
I'm home.
I 'll come home.
وكذلك يمكن استخدامها كصفة What's your home address?
وكذلك مع كلمة here
Is there a telephone near here?
هنا استخدمنا near قبل كلمة hereوهنا كلمة near حرف جر
in here حرف جر واسم
here بدون حرف جر تكون adverb

IMAGINATIVE
16-04-2012, 12:06 AM
your reference is oxford advanced learners e-dictionary

Mr.Nabil
16-04-2012, 09:29 AM
London is only 50 miles from here.
Here's Fiona - let me introduce you to her.
Where do we go/Where do we take it from here? (= What should we do next?)
- they're too busy concentrating on the here and now.
Here today, gone tomorrow. saying


said about something which lasts only a short time
A lot of new Internet companies are here today and gone tomorrow.

Mr.Nabil
16-04-2012, 09:38 AM
London is only 50 miles from here.
Here's Fiona - let me introduce you to her.
Where do we go/Where do we take it from here? (= What should we do next?)
- they're too busy concentrating on the here and now.
Here today, gone tomorrow. saying


said about something which lasts only a short time
A lot of new Internet companies are here today and gone tomorro

السيد2011
18-04-2012, 09:19 PM
انا هقول حاجه تانيه
انا درست في مركز لغات لفتره ولقيتها بيستخدمو كلمات بالنسبه ليه مش مفهومه خالص
فانقشت برضه وقلت انا عايزه قاعده ماقولها للطلبه رضو عليا اكتر من استاذ وقال ده اسمه
انجليزي حديث ومالوش قاعده لانه مع الاستخدام ومتداول جدا في امريكا وبريطانيا يعني لو حاولت تسال ما فيش حد هيفيد
اعذرني طولت عليك

Mr...Ahmed
01-05-2012, 09:49 PM
Just check this
http://forum.thefreedictionary.com/postst18361_on-here--in-here--.aspx

عبدالله عمر13
04-05-2012, 05:27 PM
5. It’s terribly hot in here. Please can you turn on the _____?

a. heater b. lights c. parts d. air conditioning

مطلوب التعليق علي هذة الجملة .

كلما قرأت هذة الجملة أشعر انها خطأ ياريت لو في مرجع يقول انها صح !!!!!!!!!!!
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
الجملة صحيحة ان شاء الله
المرجع قاموس LDOCE او LONGMAN DICTIONARY OF CONTEMPORARY ENGLISH
here S1 W1 / hɪə $ hɪr / adverb

1 in this place : What are you doing here?
Shall we eat here?
Come here for a minute.
This switch here controls the lights.
My friend here will show you the way.
up/down/in/out here What was she doing up here in the woods?
Would you close the window? It’s cold in here.

Come on. I’m over here .
Will you be back here tonight?
There are no good pubs round here .
Let’s settle the matter here and now .
Grammar
Do not say 'in here' when you are talking about a town or country, or an institution such as a university. Just say here : The people here have got just about enough to live on.
Use in here when referring to what is inside a building, room, cupboard etc.
Do not use 'here is/are ...' to say what is in a place. Use there is/are ... here :
There are many species of birds here.


2 at this point in time : Spring is here at last.
Here is your chance to change your life.
Here is where the trouble starts.

3 here and there scattered around or happening in several different places : The house just needs a bit of paint here and there.

SPOKEN PHRASES 4 here is/are something ( also here it is/here they are ) a) used when you are giving something to someone, or showing something to them : Here’s the money you lent me.
Here are some pictures of John when he was little.

b) used when you have found something you were looking for : Have you seen my pen? Oh, here it is.


5 used when you are giving or offering something to someone : Here, have my chair. I don’t mind standing.

6 here you are/here you go used when you are giving something to someone : Here you are, a boxful of tools.
‘Here you go.’ Callum handed her a glass of orange juice.

7 at this point in a discussion : Here I’d like to add a note of caution.
There is no space to discuss this issue here.
I’m not sure what you mean here.

8 here goes! ( also here we go ) used when you are going to try to do something difficult or dangerous, and you do not know what will happen : I’ve never ridden a motorbike before, so here goes!

9 here we go used when you are starting to do something or when something is starting to happen : Right, here we go, the game’s starting.

10 here’s to somebody/something used when you are going to drink something to wish someone good luck, show your respect for them etc : Here’s to the happy couple.
Here’s to your new job.

11 here he/she etc is ( also somebody/something is here ) used to say that someone or something has arrived : Here they are, late as usual.
Ah, look – here’s the postman.
Tony’s here for his messages.

12 here we are used when you have finally arrived somewhere you were travelling to : Here we are – home at last.

13 here comes somebody/something used when you can see something or someone arriving : Here comes lunch.

14 British English used to get someone’s attention or to show that you are annoyed : Here! Just what do you think you’re doing?

15 here we go again informal used when something unpleasant is beginning to happen again : Most of us are peaceful and decent, but here we go again, in our fifth war of this century.

16 here to stay if something is here to stay, it has become a part of life and will continue to be so : Mobile phones are definitely here to stay.

17 here, there, and everywhere informal in many different places : I spent the weekend driving the kids here, there, and everywhere.

18 neither here nor there not important : ‘You never liked him much, did you?‘ ’What I think about him is neither here nor there. He’s your friend.’

19 the here and now the present time in the here and now To be able to live fully in the here and now, one must first learn how to honour the past.


20 somebody/something is here to do something used to say what someone or something’s duty or purpose is : We’re here to serve you.

21 here he/she etc is (doing something) used to describe the present situation, especially one you did not expect to happen : Here I am in Fiji!