battota_111
16-02-2010, 12:51 AM
لو سمحتم يا أفضل المدرسين على الاطلاق
جملة محيرانى
هل نقول
historic building
أم
historical building
مع التمثيل و مصدر المعلومة اية
لأتى شفتها احيانا بالشكلين مع الشكر
مستر نعيم
16-02-2010, 01:51 AM
historic:
important in history, likely to be thought of as important at some time in the future.
Historic:
building - decision - monument - moment - occasion - day - visit - victory - place - vote - times
Historical:
usually describes something that is connected with the past or with the study of history.
Historical:
research - events - documents - fact - novel - context - background - figure - records
References :
Oxford Dictionary
Cambridge Dictionary
Longman Dictionary
مستر نعيم
16-02-2010, 01:57 AM
يعني انت ومغمض تختار
historic building
وانسي المكتوب في أي كتب تانية
المصادر دي مافيش بعدها
واتمني لك التوفيق
samar saad
16-02-2010, 03:01 AM
سؤال مهم فعلا ميرسى جدا على الرد الرائع ده
historic معناها مهم فى التاريخ
historical معناها قديم جدا
ويمكن ان يحل كلا منهما محل الاخر
historic building صح historical building صح
لكن فق استخدم historical مع novel= book==film ومكذا
مستر نعيم
16-02-2010, 12:06 PM
تحياتي
حضرتك ايه مصدر معلوماتك
انا كتبت لك تلات مصادر للمعلومة دي
علي فكرة انا ما باخدش اي معلومة من أي كتاب خارجي مهما كان اسمه
المعلومة تكون صح من مصدر ذي المصادر اللي كتبتها لك
واعتقد ان هذه الكتب من انجلترا
يعني الانجليزي الصح الصح
وكلنا بنتعلم وحنتعلم
ابو بيشو
16-02-2010, 03:26 PM
نقلت لحضراتكم اسئله الساده المدرسين من خلال موقع Longman
ولكن الظاهر ان حضراتكم لم تلقوا نظره عليه لذا نقلت لحضراتكم الرد شكرا لكم جميعا :078111rg3:Tell me please how can I explain the difference between historic and historical.
Sender
ali samir
Position
Student
Please note that students are not required to know the difference between historic and historical. They only need to know that these are adjectives and to distinguish them from the nouns history and historian.
Some dictionaries — including Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English Online (http://www.ldoceonline.com/) and Merriam-Webster International Online — do not distinguish these two words.
Some other references do distinguish them. The Cambridge Guide to English Usage explains them this way:
"Historic is more self-consciously associated with the making of history, so that a historic event is one which people feel is particularly significant in the life and culture of the nation. Historical is more neutral, acknowledging that something belongs to the past, or to the study of the past, or else that it really happened and is not fictitious."
Let’s look at some examples.
A historical book is a book about history, but a historic book is one that is particularly significant in the culture, perhaps because it was the first of its kind — the first novel, the first book printed rather than copied by hand, the first book to deal with a certain subject, etc.
A historical building is simply an old building. A historic building is considered important because a memorable event happened in or near it — an assassination, the signing of a treaty, the founding of an important organization, etc.
A historical person is one who really existed in the past. Legends are usually fantastic imaginary stories that grow around a historical figure. That is, the person really existed, even though the deeds and events of the legend are imaginary or exaggerated.