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 مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : فضيحة:مقال الاسوشيدبرس بأن صبر الجيش بدأينفذ من الرئيس وجماعته مفبرك من ابراهيم عيسى 
 علوة حامد 22-02-2013, 10:52 PMذكر النائب السابق محمد العمدة أن مقال الاسوشيدبرس الخاص بأن صبر الجيش بدأ ينفذ الذي نقلته جريدة التحرير ثم الدستور على أنه من تحليل وكتابة وكالة الاسوشيدبس وأنهما قاما بالترجمة فهذا صحيح
 لكن المفأجاة أن بالرجوع الى المقال بالنسخة الانجليزية اتضح أن المقال في اصله من ابراهيم عيسى ومن تحليلاته وقد ذكرت ذلك الوكالة في النسخة الانجليزية اما جريدتي التحرير والدستور فقد تعمدتا حذف اسم ابراهيم عيسى من المقال لايهام القارئى بأن الجيش دخل على الخط وهذا من خيالات ابو حمالات
 
 
 
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 أ/محمد ابراهيم 23-02-2013, 12:17 AMبسم الله الرحمن الرحيم " ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين "
 صدق الله العظيم
 بارك الله فيك اخى الفاضل
 أ/محمد ابراهيم 23-02-2013, 12:54 PMhttp://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/549383_542492419117664_1330358830_n.png (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=542492419117664&set=a.490671160966457.117059.187003297999913&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf)
 ابونرمين 23-02-2013, 06:34 PMخسارة أن يحمل أسم(أبراهيم) و(عيسى)
 la salos 24-02-2013, 12:00 PMوهذا من خيالات ابو حمالات
 علوة حامد 25-02-2013, 05:18 PMبسم الله الرحمن الرحيم " ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين "
 صدق الله العظيم
 بارك الله فيك اخى الفاضل
 
 
 
 نعم صدق الله العظيم
 
 جزاك الله خيراً
 zoro4 25-02-2013, 08:21 PMللأسف الجيش مش حاسس بشعب مصر شوف اقل ضابط بياخذ راتب كام وياكل ويشرب مجانا حيحس بقي بالغلالة من شعب مصر والمطحونين ؟ يقولك لا استحملو خدو علي قفاكم واسكتو 
 الكلام صح غلط محصلة بعضها
 علوة حامد 25-02-2013, 10:56 PMللأسف الجيش مش حاسس بشعب مصر شوف اقل ضابط بياخذ راتب كام وياكل ويشرب مجانا حيحس بقي بالغلالة من شعب مصر والمطحونين ؟ يقولك لا استحملو خدو علي قفاكم واسكتو 
 الكلام صح غلط محصلة بعضها
 
 
 
 
 لازم تعرف إن الجيش المصري هو المؤسئسة الحامية لاستقلال هذا البلد وهي درع الوطن وسيفه وهو جيش وطني وليس طائفي ولذلك الحفاظ عليه هو حفاظ على مصر
 
 اما مسألة الرواتب فهي مسألة أخرى تتبع العدالة الاجتماعية وهذا دور الحكومات القادمة ومجلس النواب
 Tornadoo1970 25-02-2013, 11:38 PMصحف أمريكية: عندما يحذِّر الجيش المصرى من انهيار الدولة فقد حان وقت القلق
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 - سارة حسين
 نشر:                         31/1/2013 5:44 ص                          – تحديث                         31/1/2013 5:44 ص
 «نيويورك تايمز»: توبيخ السيسى للقادة المدنيين أثار احتمال تدخل الجنرالات مرة أخرى فى السياسة
 
 علقت «وول ستريت جورنال» على تصريحات وزير الدفاع اللواء  عبد الفتاح  السيسى، بأنها أعادت إلى الأذهان الإجراءات العسكرية التى اتخذت  فى الأيام  الأولى من الثورة المصرية منذ عامين، عندما تدخل مجلس من  الجنرالات  لقيادة البلاد بعد الإطاحة بحسنى مبارك. مشيرة إلى أن فترة الحكم  العسكرى  تميزت بالاحتجاجات العنيفة وعدم الاستقرار. كما نقلت الصحيفة آراء  بعض  المراقبين، التى كان أبرزها اعتقادهم أن الجيش يتوق إلى العودة إلى   الأضواء السياسية. وأضافت أن تصريحات السيسى أوضحت اليأس المتزايد الذى   يشعر به المصريون، حيث فشل الجدل بين الرئيس محمد مرسى ومعارضيه فى التوصل   حتى إلى مظهر من الاستقرار السياسى اللازم لتهدئة الشوارع وتجنب الانهيار   الاقتصادى. «وول ستريت جورنال» تابعت أن تصريحات السيسى بدت تهدف إلى جذب   انتباه السياسيين نحو المفاوضات قبل أن يصل تدهور الاقتصاد إلى ذروة   الانهيار. مضيفة أن الجيش هو إحدى المؤسسات القليلة التى تتمتع بنفوذ كاف   لإقناع الإسلاميين ومعارضيهم العلمانيين بالتوصل إلى اتفاق بعضهم مع بعض.   واختتمت الصحيفة تقريرها بالنقل عن خبراء شرق أوسطيين اعتقادهم أنه إذا   استمر ال*** فى مصر، أو اتخذ الجيش خطوات لزيادة سلطته، ستتخذ إدارة أوباما   موقفا أكثر عدوانية فى مصر الأسابيع المقبلة، حتى وإن لم يغير ذلك كثيرا   فى الأحداث على أرض الواقع. أما «نيويورك تايمز» فقالت إن ال*** لا يزال   منتشرا وأن الرئيس بدا عاجزا عن إيقافه. مضيفة أن حلفاءه من الإخوان   المسلمين ومعارضيهم أثبتوا أيضا عدم فاعليتهم فى مواجهة الأزمة، حيث قالت:   «كل منهم يتقهقر إلى زاويته، مشيرا بأصابع اللوم إلى الآخر».
 «نيويورك تايمز» أضافت أن توبيخ السيسى للقادة المدنيين  أثار احتمال  تدخل الجنرالات مرة أخرى فى السياسة المدنية. ونقلت عن محللين  أن السيسى  على عكس السابقين له، يرغب فى تجنب أى تورط سياسى.
 من جانبها قالت «واشنطن بوست» إن تحذير اللواء السيسى  يشير إلى أنه  ربما يتم إقحام القوات العسكرية لاتخاذ إجراء قريبا. مضيفة  أنه لا يزال  غير واضح نيابة عن من سيتدخل الجنرالات، وهو ما يسلط الضوء على  الأسئلة  حول مدى سيطرة مرسى على القوات المسلحة ومؤسسات الدولة التى كانت  تستجيب  ذات يوم لحسنى مبارك. وكالة «أسوشيتد برس» قالت إن الضغط الأكبر  لخروج  السيسى عن صمته يقع على الرئيس مرسى الذى عجز عن احتواء الاضطرابات  بيد من  حديد، حيث تحدى المحتجون إعلانه للطوارئ وحظر التجول فى بورسعيد   والإسماعيلية والسويس.
 وفى تقرير بعنوان «مصر ترتعد، ولا قيادة تلوح فى  الأفق»، «كريستيان  ساينس مونيتور» أيضا علقت بقولها: «عندما يحذر الجيش  المصرى من انهيار  الدولة، فقد حان وقت القلق». وتابعت الصحيفة أن الانقلاب  العسكرى أمر غير  محتمل. مضيفة أن استغلال عقوبة الإعدام لإسكات التعبير عن  الرأى، يبعث  برسالة أخرى حول الاتجاه الذى يسعى مرسى لأخذ مصر إليه.
 
 
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 Tornadoo1970 25-02-2013, 11:42 PM(واشنطن بوست): الجيش على وشك أن ينفذ سيناريو مبارك مع مرسي .. وصبر الجيش بدأ ينفذ       
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 كتب- محمد مراد
 
 
 أكدت صحيفة "واشنطن بوست" الأمريكية على ظهور مؤشرات توضح بدأ نفاذ صبر الجيش على قيادة دكتور محمد مرسي رئيس الجمهورية للبلاد.
 
 
 وأوضحت  الصحفية في الخبر الذي نشرته نقلاً عن وكالة الأنباء العالمية "أسوشيتد  برس"، أوضحت أن الجيش ينتقد سياسات مرسي ويهدد بطريقة غير مباشرة بعودته للسلطة (http://www.noreed.com/InformationCenterDetails.aspx?InformationCenterDet ails=86&&TopMenu1=6&&InformationCenterMain=6) من جديد.
 
 
 وأفادت  الصحيفة أن التوتر الذي يشهده المشهد السياسي في مصر بين الرئاسة والجيش  يعيد للأذهان ما فعله الجيش في 2011 عندما أطاح لواءاته بالرئيس المخلوع  حسني مبارك ووقفوا في صف المتظاهرين.
 
 
 وأشارت إلى أن المشهد السياسي يتضمن مأزقاً في الخلاف بين محمد مرسي و "الإخوان المسلمين (http://www.noreed.com/MuslimsBrothers.aspx)" في جهة، والمعارضة الليبرالية والعلمانية (http://www.noreed.com/InformationCenterDetails.aspx?InformationCenterDet ails=134&&TopMenu1=6&&InformationCenterMain=6)  في الجهة الأخرى، وهو ما دفع بالمصريين للشعور باليأس. وأضافت الصحيفة أن  المعركة بين الطرفين تسببت في ارتفاع معدل الجريمة وتدهور الأحوال  الاقتصادية.
 
 
 وعلق  مايكل هانا خبير الشئون المصرية في مؤسسة "سنشري" بنيويورك، قائلًا: "أن  القوات المسلحة لن تسمح بتعرض الاستقرار القومي أو أي من المؤسسات العسكرية  (http://www.noreed.com/InformationCenterDetails.aspx?InformationCenterDet ails=136&&TopMenu1=6&&InformationCenterMain=6)لتهديد يؤدي إلى تفكك النسيج المصري".
 
 
 واستطرد قائلًا: "الجيش لا يسعى إلى زعزعة الحكم المدني (http://www.noreed.com/InformationCenterDetails.aspx?InformationCenterDet ails=133&&TopMenu1=6&&InformationCenterMain=6)، ولكنه لن يقف مكتوف الأيدي في ظل تدهور مصر نحو هاوية الحرب الأهلية".
 
 
 وأرجعت الصحيفة الخلاف المحتدم بين الجيش وجماعة "الإخوان المسلمين (http://www.noreed.com/MuslimsBrothers.aspx)"  إلى ما أثير مؤخرًا حول نية مرسي إقالة وزير الدفاع الفريق أول عبد الفتاح  السيسي نظرًا لما يلايقه مرسي من مقاومة من قبل السيسي تجاه سعي مرسي  إحكام سيطرة حكومة مستقبلية من الإخوان المسلمين (http://www.noreed.com/MuslimsBrothers.aspx) على القوات المسلحة.
 
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 Tornadoo1970 25-02-2013, 11:45 PMEgypt's military signals impatience with president     By HAMZA HENDAWI
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 The tension is  raising the specter of another military intervention much like the one  in 2011, when generals replaced longtime authoritarian leader Hosni  Mubarak after they sided with anti-regime protesters in their 18-day  popular uprising.
 The strains come at a time  when many Egyptians are despairing of an imminent end to the crippling  political impasse between President Mohammed Morsi and his Muslim  Brotherhood group on one side, and the mostly secular and liberal  opposition on the other.
 The tug of war  between the two camps is being waged against a grim backdrop of  spreading unrest, rising crime and a worsening economy.
 "In  essence, the military will not allow national stability or its own  institutional privileges to come under threat from a breakdown in  Egypt's social fabric or a broad-based civil strife," said Michael W.  Hanna, an Egypt expert from the New York-based Century Foundation.
 "This  is not an ideological army or one that seeks to destabilize civilian  governance. ... But it is also not an army that will sit by while the  country reaches the tipping point on the path to civil strife."
 The  latest friction began when a rumor circulated that Morsi planned to  replace Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, his defense minister and the army  chief, because of his resistance to bringing the military under the sway  of the Brotherhood-dominated government.
 El-Sissi  may have angered Morsi last month when he signaled the military's  readiness to step in, warning that the state would collapse if no  solution was found to the political crisis. Pointedly, he also spoke of  how the military faces a dilemma in marrying the task of protecting  state installations in restive locations with its resolve not to harm  peaceful protesters.
 In another provocative  comment earlier this month, el-Sissi was quoted as saying he would never  allow the armed forces to be dominated by the Brotherhood, or any other  group, stressing the military's national identity.
 A  Brotherhood spokesman, Yasser Mehrez, dismissed claims that the group  sought to bring the military under its sway. "This is old talk that has  been repeated over and over again," he said.
 The  rumor about el-Sissi's dismissal was widely suspected to be a trial  balloon floated by the Muslim Brotherhood to gauge military and public  reaction.
 The military did not officially  respond. But widely published comments attributed to an anonymous  military source threatened that any attempt to remove the military's top  commanders would be "suicide" for the government and spoke of  widespread anger within the armed forces.
 The  source was quoted as saying the public will not accept any meddling in  the military and will close ranks to counter any pressures or  challenges.
 The military distanced itself from  the comments on a statement posted on its official Facebook page. But  the situation was deemed serious enough for Morsi's office to issue a  statement late Monday that appeared aimed at calming the military.
 It  reassured commanders of the administration's appreciation of the armed  forces and said the president had confidence in el-Sissi.
 But the statement, which blamed media for spreading "lies and rumors," may have done little to ease the tension.
 "The  two sides may be publicly dismissing reports of tension, but the army  is making it very clear to the presidency that any attempt to dismiss  el-Sissi would backfire," said military ****yst and retired army Gen.  Mohammed Qadri Said.
 "They claim mutual love and respect, but what is happening is not indicative of this."
 The  military also handed Morsi a public humiliation when army commanders  chose not to enforce a night curfew he imposed on three restive Suez  C**** cities in riots last month.
 In a direct  challenge to the president, several top field commanders said they would  not use force against civilians in the three cities. Residents openly  defied Morsi by staging demonstrations during the curfew hours, playing  soccer in the streets and setting off fireworks.
 El-Sissi's  top lieutenant, Chief of Staff Sedki Sobhi, delivered another implicit  warning to Morsi and the Brotherhood this week.
 While  the military was not currently involved in politics, he said: "It keeps  an eye on what goes on in the nation and if the Egyptian people ever  needed the armed forces, they will be on the streets in less than a  second."
 Significantly, Sobhi made his  comments in the United Arab Emirates, whose government accuses Egypt's  Brotherhood of meddling in its affairs and has arrested 11 Egyptian  expatriates there for their membership of the group.
 Morsi and the Brotherhood have made it clear that they do not want the military to play any political role.
 But  that did not stop el-Sissi from extending an invitation to the  opposition and Islamist leaders loyal to Morsi to sit down informally  over lunch to defuse a crisis over presidential decrees issued in  November that gave Morsi near absolute powers. The decrees have since  been rescinded.
 Under pressure from the Brotherhood, el-Sissi withdrew the invitation just hours before the meeting was to start.
 Morsi  appointed el-Sissi less than two months after taking office as Egypt's  first freely elected president. The Aug. 12 appointment followed Morsi's  bold decision to retire the nation's two top generals, restoring the  full powers of the president's office and ending a months-long power  struggle between the two sides. Before Morsi's move, the military had  the power to legislate since the legislature was dissolved in June by a  court ruling. The military also held veto power over a panel that was  drafting a new constitution at the time.
 Still,  few ever took el-Sissi to be the president's man. And there were doubts  that six decades of de facto military rule had come to an end or that  the military had been relegated to playing second fiddle to civilians.
 Morsi  and his Islamist supporters passed up a major opportunity to curb the  military's power - something that would have meant a major confrontation  with the generals.
 The new constitution  drafted by Islamists enshrined the military's near-complete independence  and kept its vast economic interests above oversight, against the  wishes of many who participated in the 2011 revolt.
 With  chaos in the country deepening, chants calling for military  intervention during street protests, last heard en masse during the  uprising, are making a timid comeback.
 "Millions  of Egyptians want the army to come back and deliver us from chaos,"  Ibrahim Issa, host of a political talk show on television, said this  week.
 "This is the sentiment on the Egyptian  street, and ignoring it is stupid," said the popular Issa, a harsh  critic of Morsi, the Brotherhood and the military when it was in power.
 Since  taking office in June 2012, Morsi has made little progress in tackling  Egypt's pressing problems - steep price increases, surging crime,  deteriorating services and fuel shortages.
 The  Brotherhood, which dominates parliament and the government after  winning every election since Mubarak's ouster, is accused of  monopolizing power. And Morsi has been criticized for failing to deliver  on a promise of an inclusive government representing the Christian  minority, liberal and secular political factions, and women.
 The  highly charged political climate and the collapsing economy could make a  military takeover seem like a welcome development in some corners of  Egypt - or at least a necessary evil that could salvage the nation.
 But  the military may not be willing to insert itself directly again in  politics or governance. Its prestige was badly tarnished by scathing  criticism of its handling of the post-Mubarak transition period.
 A  few days into the uprising, Mubarak ordered the army into the streets  to replace a police force that melted away when confronted with massive  public outrage over decades of abuse.
 With the  country in chaos and paralyzed, the military later sided with  protesters who demanded that Mubarak leave office. A council of ruling  generals took over the reins of power, but the relationship soon turned  sour.
 Activists and pro-democracy groups  accused the generals of widespread human rights violations during their  rule, including the torture of detainees and the trial of at least  10,000 civilians before military tribunals.
 The  military later made good on its promise to hand over power to an  elected government, although Morsi and his Brotherhood would clearly not  have been the generals' choice if they had to make one.
 With  that history in mind, there are serious questions about whether a  military intervention can even solve any of Egypt's problems in a time  short enough to satisfy a population seething with anger over the chaos  and hardships of the last two years.
 The military would be risking more vilification if it does not move the country onto firmer ground quickly.
 Nevertheless, there may be enough goodwill toward the military and popular discontent to give it another chance.
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 related multimedia         http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/interactive_icons/images/videocam.gif (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/m/ml_egypt_military_?site=ap§ion=home&template=default#) compare the m4 and other rifles (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/m/ml_egypt_military_?site=ap§ion=home&template=default#)                              http://****ytics.apnewsregistry.com/****ytics/v2/image.svc/ap/rws/hosted.ap.org/mai/v9028-2013-02-20t1546z/e/prod/at/a      cairo     (ap) -- egypt's powerful military is showing signs of  growing impatience with the country's islamist leaders, indirectly  criticizing their policies and issuing thinly veiled threats that it  might seize power again.
 The tension is  raising the specter of another military intervention much like the one  in 2011, when generals replaced longtime authoritarian leader hosni  mubarak after they sided with anti-regime protesters in their 18-day  popular uprising.
 The strains come at a time  when many egyptians are despairing of an imminent end to the crippling  political impasse between president mohammed morsi and his muslim  brotherhood group on one side, and the mostly secular and liberal  opposition on the other.
 The tug of war  between the two camps is being waged against a grim backdrop of  spreading unrest, rising crime and a worsening economy.
 "in  essence, the military will not allow national stability or its own  institutional privileges to come under threat from a breakdown in  egypt's social fabric or a broad-based civil strife," said michael w.  Hanna, an egypt expert from the new york-based century foundation.
 "this  is not an ideological army or one that seeks to destabilize civilian  governance. ... But it is also not an army that will sit by while the  country reaches the tipping point on the path to civil strife."
 the  latest friction began when a rumor circulated that morsi planned to  replace gen. Abdel-fattah el-sissi, his defense minister and the army  chief, because of his resistance to bringing the military under the sway  of the brotherhood-dominated government.
 El-sissi  may have angered morsi last month when he signaled the military's  readiness to step in, warning that the state would collapse if no  solution was found to the political crisis. Pointedly, he also spoke of  how the military faces a dilemma in marrying the task of protecting  state installations in restive locations with its resolve not to harm  peaceful protesters.
 In another provocative  comment earlier this month, el-sissi was quoted as saying he would never  allow the armed forces to be dominated by the brotherhood, or any other  group, stressing the military's national identity.
 A  brotherhood spokesman, yasser mehrez, dismissed claims that the group  sought to bring the military under its sway. "this is old talk that has  been repeated over and over again," he said.
 The  rumor about el-sissi's dismissal was widely suspected to be a trial  balloon floated by the muslim brotherhood to gauge military and public  reaction.
 The military did not officially  respond. But widely published comments attributed to an anonymous  military source threatened that any attempt to remove the military's top  commanders would be "suicide" for the government and spoke of  widespread anger within the armed forces.
 The  source was quoted as saying the public will not accept any meddling in  the military and will close ranks to counter any pressures or  challenges.
 The military distanced itself from  the comments on a statement posted on its official facebook page. But  the situation was deemed serious enough for morsi's office to issue a  statement late monday that appeared aimed at calming the military.
 It  reassured commanders of the administration's appreciation of the armed  forces and said the president had confidence in el-sissi.
 But the statement, which blamed media for spreading "lies and rumors," may have done little to ease the tension.
 "the  two sides may be publicly dismissing reports of tension, but the army  is making it very clear to the presidency that any attempt to dismiss  el-sissi would backfire," said military ****yst and retired army gen.  Mohammed qadri said.
 "they claim mutual love and respect, but what is happening is not indicative of this."
 the  military also handed morsi a public humiliation when army commanders  chose not to enforce a night curfew he imposed on three restive suez  c**** cities in riots last month.
 In a direct  challenge to the president, several top field commanders said they would  not use force against civilians in the three cities. Residents openly  defied morsi by staging demonstrations during the curfew hours, playing  soccer in the streets and setting off fireworks.
 El-sissi's  top lieutenant, chief of staff sedki sobhi, delivered another implicit  warning to morsi and the brotherhood this week.
 While  the military was not currently involved in politics, he said: "it keeps  an eye on what goes on in the nation and if the egyptian people ever  needed the armed forces, they will be on the streets in less than a  second."
 significantly, sobhi made his  comments in the united arab emirates, whose government accuses egypt's  brotherhood of meddling in its affairs and has arrested 11 egyptian  expatriates there for their membership of the group.
 Morsi and the brotherhood have made it clear that they do not want the military to play any political role.
 But  that did not stop el-sissi from extending an invitation to the  opposition and islamist leaders loyal to morsi to sit down informally  over lunch to defuse a crisis over presidential decrees issued in  november that gave morsi near absolute powers. The decrees have since  been rescinded.
 Under pressure from the brotherhood, el-sissi withdrew the invitation just hours before the meeting was to start.
 Morsi  appointed el-sissi less than two months after taking office as egypt's  first freely elected president. The aug. 12 appointment followed morsi's  bold decision to retire the nation's two top generals, restoring the  full powers of the president's office and ending a months-long power  struggle between the two sides. Before morsi's move, the military had  the power to legislate since the legislature was dissolved in june by a  court ruling. The military also held veto power over a panel that was  drafting a new constitution at the time.
 Still,  few ever took el-sissi to be the president's man. And there were doubts  that six decades of de facto military rule had come to an end or that  the military had been relegated to playing second fiddle to civilians.
 Morsi  and his islamist supporters passed up a major opportunity to curb the  military's power - something that would have meant a major confrontation  with the generals.
 The new constitution  drafted by islamists enshrined the military's near-complete independence  and kept its vast economic interests above oversight, against the  wishes of many who participated in the 2011 revolt.
 With  chaos in the country deepening, chants calling for military  intervention during street protests, last heard en masse during the  uprising, are making a timid comeback.
 "millions  of egyptians want the army to come back and deliver us from chaos,"  ibrahim issa, host of a political talk show on television, said this  week.
 "this is the sentiment on the egyptian  street, and ignoring it is stupid," said the popular issa, a harsh  critic of morsi, the brotherhood and the military when it was in power.
 Since  taking office in june 2012, morsi has made little progress in tackling  egypt's pressing problems - steep price increases, surging crime,  deteriorating services and fuel shortages.
 The  brotherhood, which dominates parliament and the government after  winning every election since mubarak's ouster, is accused of  monopolizing power. And morsi has been criticized for failing to deliver  on a promise of an inclusive government representing the christian  minority, liberal and secular political factions, and women.
 The  highly charged political climate and the collapsing economy could make a  military takeover seem like a welcome development in some corners of  egypt - or at least a necessary evil that could salvage the nation.
 But  the military may not be willing to insert itself directly again in  politics or governance. Its prestige was badly tarnished by scathing  criticism of its handling of the post-mubarak transition period.
 A  few days into the uprising, mubarak ordered the army into the streets  to replace a police force that melted away when confronted with massive  public outrage over decades of abuse.
 With the  country in chaos and paralyzed, the military later sided with  protesters who demanded that mubarak leave office. A council of ruling  generals took over the reins of power, but the relationship soon turned  sour.
 Activists and pro-democracy groups  accused the generals of widespread human rights violations during their  rule, including the torture of detainees and the trial of at least  10,000 civilians before military tribunals.
 The  military later made good on its promise to hand over power to an  elected government, although morsi and his brotherhood would clearly not  have been the generals' choice if they had to make one.
 With  that history in mind, there are serious questions about whether a  military intervention can even solve any of egypt's problems in a time  short enough to satisfy a population seething with anger over the chaos  and hardships of the last two years.
 The military would be risking more vilification if it does not move the country onto firmer ground quickly.
 Nevertheless, there may be enough goodwill toward the military and popular discontent to give it another chance.
 © 2013 the associated press.  All rights reserved.  This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/m/ml_egypt_military_?site=ap§ion=home&template=default#e50dd750-0652-47ec-ba96-e1bde8eaaef6)  learn more about our privacy policy (http://hosted2.ap.org/apdefault/privacy) and terms of use (http://hosted2.ap.org/apdefault/terms).
 
 
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