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Essam ABDOU 26-06-2009 10:30 PM

Dear colleagues,

To sum up the above and give it the form of a rule:

According to Longman English Grammar by L. G. Alexander

After NEITHER, when the reference is plural, we can use a plural verb in everyday speech, or a singular verb when we want to sound "correct" or formal

What does that mean?

Grammatically speaking, it means that originally we use a singular verb after Neither.

When we say: "Neither Ali (SINGULAR) nor Omar (SINGULAR) is happy.", we mean not Ali or Omar, individually.

There's an expression that says: neither one thing nor the other

Best Regards!

Mr. Medhat Salah 27-06-2009 03:21 PM

thaaaaaaaaaaaanks

abu_moody_a1 27-06-2009 04:01 PM

ارجو الرد على هذا السؤال بسرعة
 
في الكتاب صفحة 39
جملة تقول
the most ...........students go to the best universities
و بالرجوع للTG
وجدت الحل
to count

فما معني او استخدام

the most to count students

وشكرا

استاذ بدوى الدجوى 27-06-2009 05:21 PM

She felt great happy when she saw her exam results.


The most to count students go to the best universities.


دى فعلا مشكلة يا ريس
واللى قبلها كمان مشكلة اكبر
بس اكيد فى خطأ اكيد والا تبقى مشكلة اكبر واكبر
طبعا اجابة الاولى happiness
الثانية طبعا intelligent

zead 2000 27-06-2009 06:44 PM

انا اتفق مع حضرتك وباين المنهج الجديد دة هيكون سمك..لبن....
وهايدوخنا معاة........!
من الممكن ان تكون الاولى
greatlyly happy
والثانية بدون the
وتكون
most students, to count , go to the best universities

Essam ABDOU 27-06-2009 09:21 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة abu_moody_a1 (المشاركة 1355539)
في الكتاب صفحة 39
جملة تقول
the most ...........students go to the best universities
و بالرجوع للTG
وجدت الحل
to count

فما معني او استخدام

the most to count students

وشكرا

Dear Mr.Abu_Moody,

You were looking at the answers to Question 1 (NOT QUESTION 2),

Question 2`s answers are just like Mr.Badawy`s answers: happiness and intelligent

The TG is correct

Best Regards

Mr. ABDELHADY 28-06-2009 07:12 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة abu_moody_a1 (المشاركة 1331744)
علي حد علمي فإن
neither of
يأتي بعدها اسم جمع و فعل مفرد
مثل
Neither of them knows the way,do they?
من كتاب
A practical English Grammar
صفحة 67
ولكن في وحدة 4 الصفحة رقم25
وجدت الجملة:
Neither of you have done anything...........

فهل هي
have or has

وشكرا


You have صح - ببساطة لأن You بتاخد have سواء مفرد أو جمع .
زي ما قال كل الزملاء : مفيش You has
REGARDSSSSSSSSS:)S.................:078111rg3:

hany.deif 29-06-2009 07:45 PM

يا أخي انشاء الله الجملة دي فعلا لفتت انتباهي وبحثت عنها في مرجع اكسفورد جرامر وجت ان neither pf them / no one of them / يأتي بعدها الفعل مفرد أو جمع كلاهما صحيح والله أعلم
Neither of them is clever.
Nether of them are clever

Aya_Mohamed 02-07-2009 01:00 PM

مساهمة مشكورة

abu_moody_a1 02-07-2009 04:33 PM

ارجو مراجعة هذه الجملة من وحدة 8
 
في قصة العقد في كتاب الطالب صفحة 48
بجوار صورة العقد نماما جملة تقول
He suggests that she borrow valuable jewellery from a rich friend
هل هذه الكلمة تكون مصدر ام من المفروض ان يضاف لها حرف s المفرد


وتعليق آخر
the couple arrive
the couple arrives

وشكرا

Essam Wahba 02-07-2009 04:48 PM

Subjunctive
 
1 مرفق
The sentence is quite right. This is called "Subjunctive"
Please read the attached file

Couple takes a singular or a plural verb


Mr. Medhat Salah 02-07-2009 05:47 PM

many thanks for you

Mr. Medhat Salah 02-07-2009 05:52 PM

many thanks for you

جواد عوض 02-07-2009 06:47 PM

Subjunctive

Form

Use the simple form of the verb. The simple form is the infinitive without the "to." The simple form of the verb "to go" is "go." The Subjunctive is only noticeable in certain forms and tenses.
USE

The Subjunctive is used to emphasize urgency or importance. It is used after certain expressions (see below).
Examples:
  • I suggest that he study.
  • Is it essential that we be there?
  • Hani recommended that you join the committee.
NOTICE

The Subjunctive is only noticeable in certain forms and tenses. In the examples below, the Subjunctive is not noticeable in the you-form of the verb, but it is noticeable in the he-form of the verb.
Examples:
  • You try to study often. you-form of "try"
  • It is important that you try to study often. Subjunctive form of "try" looks the same.
  • He tries to study often. he-form of "try"
  • It is important that he try to study often. Subjunctive form of "try" is noticeable here.
Verbs Followed by the Subjunctive

The Subjunctive is used after the following verbs:
to advise (that)
to ask (that)
to command (that)
to demand (that)
to desire (that)
to insist (that)
to propose (that)
to recommend (that)
to request (that)
to suggest (that)
to urge (that)
Examples:
  • Dr. Smith asked that Mark submit his research paper before the end of the month.
  • Dalia requested Frank come to the party.
  • The teacher insists that her students be on time.
Expressions Followed by the Subjunctive

The Subjunctive is used after the following expressions:
It is best (that)
It is crucial (that)
It is desirable (that)
It is essential (that)
It is imperative (that)
It is important (that)
It is recommended (that)
It is urgent (that)
It is vital (that)
It is a good idea (that)
It is a bad idea (that)
Examples:
  • It is crucial that you be there before Tom arrives.
  • It is important she attend the meeting.
  • It is recommended that he take a gallon of water with him if he wants to hike to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
Negative, Continuous and Passive Forms of Subjunctive

The Subjunctive can be used in negative, continuous and passive forms.
Negative Examples:
  • The boss insisted that Sami not be at the meeting.
  • The company asked that employees not accept personal phone calls during business hours.
  • I suggest that you not take the job without renegotiating the salary.
Passive Examples:
  • Jake recommended that Susan be hired immediately.
  • Ali demanded that I be allowed to take part in the negotiations.
  • We suggested that you be admitted to the organization.
Continuous Examples:
  • It is important that you be standing there when he gets off the plane.
  • It is crucial that a car be waiting for the boss when the meeting is over.
  • I propose that we all be waiting in Tim's apartment when he gets home.
Should as Subjunctive

After many of the above expressions, the word "should" is sometimes used to express the idea of subjunctiveness. This form is used more frequently in British English and is most common after the verbs "suggest," "recommend" and "insist."
Examples:
  • The doctor recommended that she should see a specialist about the problem.
  • Professor William suggested that Jane should study harder for the final exam.

hassn hamed 02-07-2009 08:10 PM

As a literary work , the writer can play with the language as he / she likes


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