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mostafa ali zaki 29-04-2010 09:30 PM

جملة اختياري بس محيرة ساعدونى ربنا يجزيكم خير
 
Yaria is................. of the two sisters.
a) the older b) the elder
c) the eldest d) the oldest
:stickjo4:

Mr Mosaad El Hegazy 29-04-2010 09:33 PM

the elder / the older are both correct answers

mostafa ali zaki 29-04-2010 11:25 PM

معلومات خطيرة للطلبة الجامدين
 
Don’t use the with a superlative when you are not comparing one person or thing with another.

§Mohamed’s the nicest of the three teachers.
Momamed’s nicest when he’s working with small children.


Use a plural noun after one and a half.
لاحظ الاسم الذى يقع بعدها يكون جمع
We waited one and a half hours .
A mile is about one and a half kilometres

waiting eagerly for your remarks and questions
thanks a lot . :078111rg3:

Mr Hamada Hashish 29-04-2010 11:46 PM

[quote=mostafa ali zaki;2137176]Yaria is................. of the two sisters.
a) the older b) the elder
c) the eldest d) the oldest
:stickjo4:[

نستخدمها عند المقارنة داخلنطاق الاسرة وهنا التعبير of two لذلك نختار
the ثم الصفة المنتهيى er

mostafa ali zaki 30-04-2010 01:04 AM

[quote=nasrawy100;2137465]
اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mostafa ali zaki (المشاركة 2137176)
Yaria is................. of the two sisters.
a) the older b) the elder
c) the eldest d) the oldest
:stickjo4:[

نستخدمها عند المقارنة داخلنطاق الاسرة وهنا التعبير of two لذلك نختار
the ثم الصفة المنتهيى er

thanks for your participation. in fact I thought the same until I've thought it over again.To my surprise,I've found out that elder can't be used in comparison.It is a positive adj that proceeds a noun. therefore, the correct choice is the older of the two.
It is serious and should be looked into and after.

shiko201000 30-04-2010 01:15 AM

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mostafa ali zaki 30-04-2010 01:28 AM

caution
 
Dear colleagues and students
Be careful
There is a great difference between older \ elder
older is used in comparative degree and before nouns
Hind is older than Soher.
Hind is my older sister.
However. elder is used only before nouns and can't be used in comparative degree
Hind is my elder sister.She is three years older than me,
We can say
Hind is the older of the two. NOT the elder of the two:friendsxs3:
older can be used in comparing people or things whereas elder is used with poeple and can't be followed by than
:confused:

mostafa ali zaki 30-04-2010 01:30 AM

Dear colleagues and students
Be careful
There is a great difference between older \ elder
older is used in comparative degree and before nouns
Hind is older than Soher.
Hind is my older sister.
However. elder is used only before nouns and can't be used in comparative degree
Hind is my elder sister.She is three years older than me,
We can say
Hind is the older of the two. NOT the elder of the two:friendsxs3:
older can be used in comparing people or things whereas elder is used with poeple and can't be followed by than
:confused:

mostafa ali zaki 30-04-2010 01:33 AM

You are welcome

الاستاذ حسن شبانه 30-04-2010 02:00 AM

يوجد قاعدة ثابتة هى
When we compare two people or things, we can use
the + comparative (not the + superlative . (
Sam is the taller of the two brothers.

mostafa ali zaki 30-04-2010 03:18 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة khaled Ti (المشاركة 2136096)
يا جماعة من وجهة نظري المتواضعة: 2 جملة (shouldn't) مش (Mustn't) هي مجرد نصيحة مش منع و تحريم .هايحصله اية يعني لو صرف الفلوس كلها ! هايتسجن ؟ هايتكهرب؟;) والله أعلم

I thank you very much for your contributions.It seems clearly that you are a good laugh. But you should think it over again.
mustn't is used when we want to show that something is dangerous , hateful or annoying
for example when a mother says to her child that he or she mustn't touch the stove.

ايمان محمود رمضان 30-04-2010 05:10 AM

can't
mustn't
don't need to

Mr. Medhat Salah 30-04-2010 06:59 AM

Creative Commons suspension

samir Meabed 30-04-2010 07:08 AM

thank Mr so Most of our colleagues answer you correctly
Yara is the older of two sisters.
but we may say
Yara is my elder sister
Allah only Knows

ابو بيشو 30-04-2010 09:25 AM

شكرا جزيلا لكل الزملاء الاعزاء على هذا الحوار الرائع واسمحوا لى ان اشترك معكم
الاجابه هى : the older
وهنا لنا ملاحظتان
الاولى : ما الفرق بين older -elder
كما ذكر فى English Grammar in Use
The comparative of old is older:
Tom looks older than he really is.
We use elder when we are talking about members of a family . We say my elder brother/sister/son/daughter
My elder brother is a pilot.
We use elder only before a noun :
My brother is older than me.
not :elder than me
الملاحظه الثانيه:هل نستخدم comparative ولا superlative
ذكر فى A Comprehensive English Grammar الاتى
When two persons or two things are compared the comparative is generally used :
To choose the lesser of two evils.
The greater part of the work.
The taller half of the 20th century.
She is the older and the more beautiful of the two sisters .
But
She is the oldest and the most beautiful of the three sisters.
ملحوظه اخرى: ليست متعلقه بتلك الجمله
Elders can be used as a noun meaning those of an earlier generation implying wiser than we are
You should respect your elders and betters.


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