Are you puzzled too?
 

Hello every colleague
when we use mustn't to express prohibition it is the same as can't. is this right or there is a difference in meaning
for example we say
* You mustn't smoke here. It is against the law.:078111rg3:
We also say:
* You can't smoke here. It is against the law.
What do you think?

i think that mustnot is more popular than canot and it has the meanong of prohibtion as the sentence says it is against the law
cannot:
ex:u can:T drive now,u don:T have alosence

mustn`t = can`t when they are used for prohibition

No Difference

mustn`t = can`t when they are used for prohibition


No Difference
I agree with you Mr. but there are many sentences in senior mustn't and can't in the same sentence in unit 17
Have you noticed them?

please quote the sentences you`re referring to

معلومات هامة لكل معلم أرجو الاهتمام
 

except for+N :040vk0:
I've done my homework except for the composition.
:mad:تستخدم قبل الاسم او العبارة الاسمية
except (for) after all and any no everything whole
I 've read all the articles except for the last one.:028ja7:
Nobdy agreeed except for Esam.
تستخدم بعد الكلمات الدالة على التعميم مثل all- any- everyone- nobody -whole ولكن عندما تاتى اول الجملة نستخدم except for فقط وليس except
Exept for Maher and Lames, all my friends liked the idea.
فى حالة حروف الجر والروابط تستخدم except بدون for
He is goodlooking except when he smiles.
بعد الضمائر نستخدم except او except for
We are all ready except for him.
لاحظ الضمير المستخدم يكون ضمير مفعول وليس فاعل:022yb4:

شكرا لك
ولكن الاولى ان يكون العنوان معلومات هامه للطلاب لان الاهم هو توصيل المعلومه الجميله دى للطالب

ص ح

I appreciate your wonderful remark and am going to be more careful next time.

Really I didn't mean any offence. sorry

عاجل وهام لكل الاساتذة الافاضل ارجو المساعدة
 

Choose:excl:
1-.healthy diet of fruit and vegetables could prevent disease..................
a) A b the c) no article
2-Maged is ................. of the two.
a)tall b)the taller c) the tallest d) the tall
3-She .......................when she graduates
a) will get married b) is going to get married c) is getting married :giljotiiniug3:

She .......................when she graduates
a) will get married b) is going to get married c) is getting married

ال 3 اجابات acceptable

معلومات قيمة جدا ولكن لى اضافة هامة

يمكن ان نستخدم
except
مع فعل مباشرة
He does nothing ecxept eat all day
He does nothing except eating all day
لاحظ ان الفعل يمكن ان يكون مصدر او فعل+ing

thanks
 

thanks for your important bonus
I raelly enjoy being there with you

I thank you. we need to decide on only one choice.

I agree with you Mr. However some respectable opinions don't. Therefore, I hope to see our colleagues' standpoints.:friendsxs3:

I thank you .I actually feel proude to be a participant in this forum :049gc0:

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU (المشاركة 2125362) please quote the sentences you`re referring to

All right
You ............. travel to America without an entry visa.
a) can't b) mustn't c) had to
2- You ................ spend much money. You won't have any left for your holiday
a) shouldn't b) can't c) needn't d) mustn't
3- In some countries, children ................. wear school uniform.
a) shouldn't b) mustn't c) don't need to d) needn't

Choose the right answer It is urgent
 

:040vk0::078111rg3:
You ............. travel to America without an entry visa.
a) can't b) mustn't c) had to
2- You ................ spend much money. You won't have any left for your holiday
a) shouldn't b) can't c) needn't d) mustn't
3- In some countries, children ................. wear school uniform.

:confused:a) shouldn't b) mustn't c) don't need to d) need

بكل الحب اهدى ابنائى وبناتى الطلبة والطالبات هذه المعلومات
 

1. Don’t use an with own.
Mona needs her own room. (NOT Mona needs an own room.)
I’d like a phone line of my own. (NOT … an own phone line.)



Don’t use a present tense after It’s time.2
It’s time you went home. (NOT It’s time you go home.)
It’s time we repented. (NOT It’s time we repent.)

يارب يطلعوا صح :d

1- can't
2- mustn't
3- don't need to

جملة اختياري بس محيرة ساعدونى ربنا يجزيكم خير
 

Yaria is................. of the two sisters.
a) the older b) the elder
c) the eldest d) the oldest
:stickjo4:

معلومات خطيرة للطلبة الجامدين
 

Don’t use the with a superlative when you are not comparing one person or thing with another.

§Mohamed’s the nicest of the three teachers.
Momamed’s nicest when he’s working with small children.


Use a plural noun after one and a half.
لاحظ الاسم الذى يقع بعدها يكون جمع
We waited one and a half hours .
A mile is about one and a half kilometres
waiting eagerly for your remarks and questions
thanks a lot . :078111rg3:

[quote=mostafa ali zaki;2137176]Yaria is................. of the two sisters.
a) the older b) the elder
c) the eldest d) the oldest
:stickjo4:[

نستخدمها عند المقارنة داخلنطاق الاسرة وهنا التعبير of two لذلك نختار
the ثم الصفة المنتهيى er

[quote=nasrawy100;2137465] thanks for your participation. in fact I thought the same until I've thought it over again.To my surprise,I've found out that elder can't be used in comparison.It is a positive adj that proceeds a noun. therefore, the correct choice is the older of the two.
It is serious and should be looked into and after.

شكراااااااااااااااااا جزيلاااااااااااااا

caution
 

Dear colleagues and students
Be careful
There is a great difference between older \ elder
older is used in comparative degree and before nouns
Hind is older than Soher.
Hind is my older sister.
However. elder is used only before nouns and can't be used in comparative degree
Hind is my elder sister.She is three years older than me,
We can say
Hind is the older of the two. NOT the elder of the two:friendsxs3:
older can be used in comparing people or things whereas elder is used with poeple and can't be followed by than
:confused:

Dear colleagues and students
Be careful
There is a great difference between older \ elder
older is used in comparative degree and before nouns
Hind is older than Soher.
Hind is my older sister.
However. elder is used only before nouns and can't be used in comparative degree
Hind is my elder sister.She is three years older than me,
We can say
Hind is the older of the two. NOT the elder of the two:friendsxs3:
older can be used in comparing people or things whereas elder is used with poeple and can't be followed by than
:confused:

يوجد قاعدة ثابتة هى

I thank you very much for your contributions.It seems clearly that you are a good laugh. But you should think it over again.
mustn't is used when we want to show that something is dangerous , hateful or annoying
for example when a mother says to her child that he or she mustn't touch the stove.

can't
mustn't
don't need to

thank Mr so Most of our colleagues answer you correctly
Yara is the older of two sisters.
but we may say
Yara is my elder sister
Allah only Knows

شكرا جزيلا لكل الزملاء الاعزاء على هذا الحوار الرائع واسمحوا لى ان اشترك معكم
الاجابه هى : the older
وهنا لنا ملاحظتان
الاولى : ما الفرق بين older -elder
كما ذكر فى English Grammar in Use
The comparative of old is older:
Tom looks older than he really is.
We use elder when we are talking about members of a family . We say my elder brother/sister/son/daughter
My elder brother is a pilot.
We use elder only before a noun :
My brother is older than me.
not :elder than me
الملاحظه الثانيه:هل نستخدم comparative ولا superlative
ذكر فى A Comprehensive English Grammar الاتى
When two persons or two things are compared the comparative is generally used :
To choose the lesser of two evils.
The greater part of the work.
The taller half of the 20th century.
She is the older and the more beautiful of the two sisters .
But
She is the oldest and the most beautiful of the three sisters.
ملحوظه اخرى: ليست متعلقه بتلك الجمله
Elders can be used as a noun meaning those of an earlier generation implying wiser than we are
You should respect your elders and betters.

Is it correct to say "Nora is the shorter of the two girls"?
Sender Rahmah Atef Position Student
Yes. When we are comparing only two things, some people prefer the comparative rather than the superlative. However, it is also possible to use the superlative because we are comparing members of a group, even if the group has only two members. And of course we always use the superlative when comparing three or more.
Nora is the shorter of the two girls.

Nora is the shortest of the two girls. (not acceptable to some)
Nora is the shortest girl in the class.
In real life, native speakers often use the superlative when comparing only two things, especially in informal speech. Some think that this is incorrect and that the comparative must be used.
A question of this sort should not appear on an exam because there are two possible answers. Students have been taught that when they see the, they must use the superlative. But which of the rules would an examiner follow -- that the comparative must be used when only two things are compared, or that the must be followed by the superlative? This would be an unfair question on an exam




http://www.longmansec.com.eg/QuestAns.aspx?QA_ID=910

1. can't
2.shouldn't
3.don't need to

جزاك الله خيرا يامستر
لى طلب عند حضرتك وهو ان تقدم بعض الشرح بالعربى حتى يناسب كل مستويات الطلاب

الأخ الفاضل مصطفى
اشكرك على نقاشك الرائع وأسلوبك فى جذب الإهتمام للموضوع
بالطبع هذا يدل على قدرتك على التشويق مع تلاميذك.

ولكن لى طلب صغير وهو أن تذكر المرجع الذى استقت منه الحكم على كون the elder of the two صيغة خاطئة
فكلنا نعرف أن elder تستخدم فقط فى بيان الترتيب وليس المقارنة والمقصود بالمقارنة وجود طرفى المقارنة منفصلين وبينهم adj+er than وبالتالى فإن استخدام elder than فعلا خطأ ولكن صيغة the elder of the two ليست صيغة مقارنة بدليل أن الطرف الأول الذى يسبق الصيغة موجود ضمنيا كجزء من الطرف الثانى وبالتالى لا يوجد طرفين للمقارنة

Noha is older than her sister Nada

ففى هذه الجملة طرفى المقارنة منفصلين وهما Noha و Nada وبالتالى لا يمكن كما هو معروف استخدام elder فى هذا السياق

Noha is elder or the two sisters

الطرفين هى هذا الصيغة هما Noha و the two sisters
وبما أن the two sisters = Noha+Nada فلا توجد مقارنة حيث أن Noha متضمنة فى الطرفين ولا يمكن أن نقارن Noha مع نفسها.

وفيما يتعلق بصحة كلامى بمكن الرجوع إلى قاموسى Oxford Advaced learner & Longman Dictionary of Contemporay English للتأكد من أن الصيغة the elder of the two ليست خطأ