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Sw0rdD 01-08-2010 10:54 AM

Beyond the common knowledge
 
السلام عليكم

كم مرة قابلك أشياء عجبت أنك لم تكن تعلم بعضها من قبل رغم أنك متبحر في علمك؟ كم مرة رأيت في قراءاتك ما هو عجيب؟ كم مرة رددنا كلام ربنا " و فوق كل ذي علم عليم؟"

رأيت إنشاء موضوع مستقل ليساهم فيه الإخوة بكل ما هو غير مشهور و غير مألوف حتي ينفع بعضنا بعضا

و ان حاز الموضوع علي إعجابكم سيكون إن شاء الله فتحة خير علي الجميع .. فبيننا غزير العلم و غزير القراءة و غزير الحماسة .. ووفقك الله الجميع.

قد يكون قد تم تقديم أشياء مماثلة في مواضيع متناثرة في المنتدي.. لكنكم قد توافقونني الرأي بأن وجود ذلك في مكان واحد سيكون افضل للكل.

سأبدأ بأمثلة و في انتظار تفاعلكم بأشياء مشابهه:

طبعا الجميع يعلم الجمع: حرف y يتحول إلي ies و يبقي كما هو إذا سبقه vowel مثل ways

لكن:

ماذا عن proper names: بمعني: ماهو جمع February ?
و ماهو جمع Kennedy إذا أحببت أن تقول عائلة Kennedy و أحببت أن تضيف إليها The

عن نفسي صادفت ذلك البارحة فقط:

February في الجمع تصبح Februarys
مثال:
I hate Februarys

جمع Kennedy هو Kennedys
مثال:
Do you know the Kennedys

حياكم الله و في إنتظار مجهوداتكم
ولا تنسونا في صالح دعائكم

Sw0rdD

Sw0rdD 01-08-2010 11:02 AM

الجمع بإضافة apostrophe ثم s

طبعا جميعنا يعرف الجمع بإضافة s لكن هل نعرف أن هناك جمع بإضافة apostrophe ثم s

جمع letters of alphabet يتم بهذه الطريقة:
مثال:.
She spelt 'necessary' with two c's.
أما جمع السنوات و الإختصارات فله طريقتان:
I loved the 1960's. (OR ... the 1960s.)
Do you think MP's do a good job? (OR ... MPs ...)

المصدر للمعلومتان السابقتان:
Practical English Usage
حياكم الله

كونان العرب 01-08-2010 11:56 PM

شكرا يا مستر علي الملاحظات
وبانتظار جديدك و جديد بقية المدرسين ^^

مستر وليد السيد 03-08-2010 12:44 PM

موضوعاتك دائماً مفيدة يا مستر sw0rdD
بارك الله فيك

ابراهيم موسى 03-08-2010 05:06 PM

Thank you so much Mr Sw0rdD
May Allah bless you
I always love and appreciate your lovely ideas and effective participations
Concerning unusual plurals I have found a very useful site ,here`s the link
http://www.hintsandthings.co.uk/library/plurals.htm
(
Some words are the same in both singular and plural forms, these I have shown in green.
SINGULAR PLURAL
attorney general
attorneys general
Heidi Kroening
bacterium
bacteria
bison
bison
Bob Bartels
cactus
cacti
Heather
child
children
Katie Barlow & daughter
corps
corps
Margarita Minster
cow
kine
(old fashioned term)
Gary Engel
cod
cod
Margarita Minster
criterion
criteria
cul-de-sac
culs-de-sac
Louis Hegedus
datum
data
deer
deer
Bob Bartels
diagnosis
diagnoses
die
dice
elf
elves
Bob Bartels
fish
fish
(or fishes)
Margarita Minster
Focus
Foci
Charles Rowan
foot
feet
Gigi Velazquez
formula
formulae
Katie Barlow & daughter
fowl
fowl
(or fowls)
Margarita Minster
genius
geniuses
Richard Hill
or genii
goose
geese
Katie Barlow & daughter
graffito
graffiti
halibut
halibut
Margarita Minster
hippopotamus
hippopotami
Heather
More commonly used hippopotamuses see ***
louse
lice
man
men
Katie Barlow & daughter
man-of-war
men of war
Heidi Kroening
means
means
Margarita Minster
Medium
Media
Charles Rowan
mongoose
mongooses
moose
moose
Margarita Minster
mouse
mice
medium
media
offspring
offspring
Margarita Minster
octopus
octopuses ***
Richard Hill
perch
perch
(or perches)
Margarita Minster
person
people
Katie Barlow & daughter
phenomenon
phenomena
pike
pike
(when referring to fish)
Margarita Minster
polyhedron
polyhedra
Heidi Kroening
polyhedrons*
* alternative form
quantum
quanta
radius
radii
Jeremy Symons
salmon
salmon
(or salmons)
Margarita Minster
scissors
scissors
Margarita Minster
series
series
Margarita Minster
sheep
sheep
Margarita Minster
species
species
Margarita Minster
stratum
strata
tooth
teeth
Katie Barlow & daughter
trout
trout
(or trouts)
Margarita Minster
tuna
tuna
(or tunas)
Margarita Minster
woman
women*
Katie Barlow & daughter

ابراهيم موسى 03-08-2010 05:41 PM

Also here `re some interesting pieces of information concerning unusual plurals

Gender

Widower is the only word in the English language whose masculine form is longer than its feminine form, which is widow


Demirep is the only word in the English language which is made feminine by applying a prefix, rather than a suffix, to the masculine form, which is rep


The plural of man is men. The plural of woman is women. The plural of human is humans
.
The plural of foot is feet. The plural of goosefoot is goosefoots
.
The plural of moose is moose. The plural of goose is geese. The plural of mongoose is mongooses
.
The plural of mouse, the rodent, is mice. The plural of mouse, the computer hardware device, is mouses.
.



Sw0rdD 03-08-2010 09:08 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة كونان العرب (المشاركة 2482877)
شكرا يا مستر علي الملاحظات
وبانتظار جديدك و جديد بقية المدرسين ^^

شكرا علي مرورك أستاذ كونان العرب.. شرفتمونا بتعليقكم

Sw0rdD 03-08-2010 09:10 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة مستر وليد السيد (المشاركة 2489179)
موضوعاتك دائماً مفيدة يا مستر sw0rdd
بارك الله فيك

هذا بعض ما عندكم أستاذ وليد
و بارك الله فيك و جمعنا بكم في الصالحين

Sw0rdD 03-08-2010 09:13 PM

Very interesting
 
اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ابراهيم موسى (المشاركة 2490402)
also here `re some interesting pieces of information concerning unusual plurals


gender

widower is the only word in the english language whose masculine form is longer than its feminine form, which is widow


demirep is the only word in the english language which is made feminine by applying a prefix, rather than a suffix, to the masculine form, which is rep


the plural of man is men. The plural of woman is women. The plural of human is humans
.
the plural of foot is feet. The plural of goosefoot is goosefoots
.
the plural of moose is moose. The plural of goose is geese. The plural of mongoose is mongooses
.
the plural of mouse, the rodent, is mice. The plural of mouse, the computer hardware device, is mouses.
.


شكر الله لك أستاذ أبراهيم علي هذه المشاركة العظيمة و المفيدة و الشيقة
حياك الله

Sw0rdD 03-08-2010 09:30 PM

تكملة لما سبق:

using a/an with uncountable nouns
طبعا معظمنا فاكر a good education من العام الماضي عندما كان الكتاب يتكلم عن William Golding

هنا معلومات أكثر:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4...10102451pm.png
نفعكم الله به
Sw0rdD

Mr. Medhat Salah 03-08-2010 09:52 PM

بارك الله فيك

مستر وليد السيد 04-08-2010 07:31 PM

بارك الله فيكم جميعاً ........ حقيقى فيه معلومات اول مرة اعرفها.

Sw0rdD 13-08-2010 03:30 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Mr. Medhat Salah (المشاركة 2491674)
بارك الله فيك

شرفت مستر مدحت

Sw0rdD 13-08-2010 03:31 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة مستر وليد السيد (المشاركة 2495683)
بارك الله فيكم جميعاً ........ حقيقى فيه معلومات اول مرة اعرفها.

و بارك الله فيك مستر وليد و في انتظار أن ننهل من علمك

Sw0rdD 13-08-2010 03:42 PM

Unit 5, Wb, secondary 3 Page 23
says "do a crime" which is wrong
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5797/crimewb.png

Longman Dictionary says: commit a crime not do a crime:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4163/crimelm.png

I blieve Longman. Hello 3rd secondary often makes mistakes, but Longman Dictionary is authoritative

ابراهيم موسى 13-08-2010 04:19 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Sw0rdD (المشاركة 2532222)
Unit 5, Wb, secondary 3 Page 23
says "do a crime" which is wrong
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5797/crimewb.png

Longman Dictionary says: commit a crime not do a crime:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4163/crimelm.png

I blieve Longman. Hello 3rd secondary often makes mistakes, but Longman Dictionary is authoritative


I totally agree with you Mr Sw0rdD
May Allah bless you
But What about the title of this song
Don`t do the crime
Is that a slang or a colloquial language ?Really I `m not sure


Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGcdrq8MQdA




ابراهيم موسى 13-08-2010 04:37 PM

1 مرفق
You Do The Crime, You Serve The Time

Also ,We can look at the following Blog which has a research entitled :
You Do The Crime, You Serve The Time

http://brainblogger.com/2007/12/27/y...erve-the-time/

But there is a connection between Crime and Time in these titles
http://gigaom.com/2010/04/14/predictive-analysis-ibm/

We must find about that !! Thank you a gain Mr Sw0rdD ,you are a genius teacher
We should have a look at the following Pdf file from California State Sheriffs`association :)


Sw0rdD 15-08-2010 01:04 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ابراهيم موسى (المشاركة 2532327)
I totally agree with you Mr Sw0rdD


May Allah bless you
But What about the title of this song
Don`t do the crime
Is that a slang or a colloquial language ?Really I `m not sure






It could be either. One thing I am sure of : It is not correct English as the dictionary stated clearly. I worked for one full year with an Irish school manager and I found her English full of common mistakes. Besides, Many songs find pleasure in breaking the rules
It is very common in movies and songs to find things like: I didn't do nothing

Sw0rdD 15-08-2010 01:13 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ابراهيم موسى (المشاركة 2532389)
You Do The Crime, You Serve The Time

Also ,We can look at the following Blog which has a research entitled :

You Do The Crime, You Serve The Time

http://brainblogger.com/2007/12/27/y...erve-the-time/

But there is a connection between Crime and Time in these titles
http://gigaom.com/2010/04/14/predictive-analysis-ibm/

We must find about that !! Thank you a gain Mr Sw0rdD ,you are a genius teacher
We should have a look at the following Pdf file from California State Sheriffs`association :)

I went through the pdf file at a glance, and found "do the crime" in quotes
The quote goes like this: 'If you don't do the time, don't do the crime'
as if it is a slang. This doesn't make it right. I am often reminded by MacDonald's slogan: I'm loving it. This could be found in commercials, magazine ads, etc, but that doesn't make it right.
I posted the dictionary entry together with the workbook page number on Longmansec site, but haven't got a response yet. However, I found it interesting discussing this with you.

Sw0rdD 15-08-2010 01:22 PM

Made with
Guess we all know about the difference between "made of", "made from", made in" and "made by" but the workbook presented additional made with
This is in Unit 6 page 33, ex 4

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9140/85434060.png



This is how "Practical English Usage" stated it



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4356/make.png

Best regards
Sw0rdD

Sw0rdD 27-08-2010 05:14 PM

السلام عليكم
It's vey common to use the preposition 'on' with the word 'island'. But many will find the following piece of information interesting

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7129/inanisland.png

Sw0rdD 31-08-2010 12:34 AM

Here is another problematic area
North vs. Northern
This is very confusing. However, it is mentioned in unit 9 3rd secondary. I posted this so that it may arouse further discussion

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7180/northern.png
If anyone has any clearer difference, plz explain


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