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ahmed7700 25-06-2009 02:56 AM

What is Inversion مستر أحمد الحادى
 
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أقدم لهذا المنتدى الرائع مجهود بسيط ومساهمة ضئيلة اذا قورنت بما يقدمه الاخوة الزملاء ارجو ان يستفيد منه الطلاب والمدرسين والموضوع يخص المستوى الرفيع فى جزئية Inversion

Essam ABDOU 25-06-2009 10:25 AM

Wonderful presentation Mr.Ahmed!

Allow me to add a little piece of information concerning the inversion.

With "ONLY WHEN", the inversion comes in the second clause.

e.g. (mentioned in the Self-Evaluation Guide in the rewrite section P.45 Ex. 34. and answered wrongly on P.61)

You will understand what true responsibility is only when you become a parent.

WRONG ANSWER P. 61

Only when do you become a parent, you will understand what true responsibility is. WRONG ANSWER

THE CORRECT ANSWER: Only when you become a parent, will you understand what true responsibility is.

The same rule here applies also with: only if / only after

But we cannot apply this rule with: only then.
Only then is followed by direct inversion.

Best Regards!

مستر/ عصام الجاويش 25-06-2009 02:27 PM

Thank you very much, Mr Ahmed. You have done a good job. Remember me to everyone in Ismailiya

Mr Mosaad El Hegazy 25-06-2009 09:45 PM

Wonderful work Mr Ahmad May Allah Bless You

mr_mahmoudzzz 26-06-2009 02:43 AM

thank you
BUT Not until ,Not Since ,Only when
صيغة السؤال تكون فى الجملة الثانية فى اغلب الاحيان

MAZEN gamal 26-06-2009 05:11 PM

ٌrealyyyyyyyyy great work

Essam ABDOU 26-06-2009 07:42 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr_mahmoudzzz (المشاركة 1351406)
thank you
BUT Not until ,Not Since ,Only when
صيغة السؤال تكون فى الجملة الثانية فى اغلب الاحيان

Dear Mr. mahmoudzzz,

Firstly, I've never heard of NOT SINCE

Secondly, there are 2 cases for NOT UNTIL
a) Not until August did the government order an inquiry into the accident.
Here, we use direct inversion because not until is followed by a point in time (August)
b) Not until the train pulled into the station, did Jim find that his coat had gone.
Here, we use the inversion in the second clause.

Best Regards

Essam ABDOU 26-06-2009 09:09 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr_mahmoudzzz (المشاركة 1351406)
thank you
BUT Not until ,Not Since ,Only when
صيغة السؤال تكون فى الجملة الثانية فى اغلب الاحيان

Dear Mr. Mahmoudzzz,

I searched for information about NOT SINCE and I found the following example:

I haven't been to the beach since last summer.
Not since last summer have I been to the beach. (regular inversion)

I'm still a new swimmer in the spacious ocean of the language.

Thank you for your information

Best Regards

ahmed7700 27-06-2009 02:36 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Essam ABDOU (المشاركة 1348762)
Wonderful presentation Mr.Ahmed!

Allow me to add a little piece of information concerning the inversion.

With "ONLY WHEN", the inversion comes in the second clause.

e.g. (mentioned in the Self-Evaluation Guide in the rewrite section P.45 Ex. 34. and answered wrongly on P.61)

You will understand what true responsibility is only when you become a parent.

WRONG ANSWER P. 61

Only when do you become a parent, you will understand what true responsibility is. WRONG ANSWER

THE CORRECT ANSWER: Only when you become a parent, will you understand what true responsibility is.

The same rule here applies also with: only if / only after

But we cannot apply this rule with: only then.
Only then is followed by direct inversion.

Best Regards!

First thank you for your compliment
second thank you for your priceless addition
i thought i have included this information in my explanation of the inversion but it was in another file thank God you have noticed this and added it:078111rg3:

Essam ABDOU 27-06-2009 02:39 PM

My pleasure, sir

ahmed7700 27-06-2009 02:42 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة مستر/ عصام الجاويش (المشاركة 1349466)
Thank you very much, Mr Ahmed. You have done a good job. Remember me to everyone in Ismailiya

Thank you Mr Essam i'm happy that we both belong to our beloved ISMAILIA so that we can express the voice of the CANAL REGION
By the way I have received your greetings and i were so pleased
Hope we meet soon......!!!:022yb4:

Essam ABDOU 27-06-2009 02:43 PM

Note Mr Ahmed 7700 that we added a lot of information for US TEACHERS; However with the students, we have to stick only with what`s in the set books.

Best Regards!

shandow 27-06-2009 04:15 PM

thank you too much for the great work you have done

Mr. Medhat Salah 07-07-2009 12:38 AM

thaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks

د. رغد 24-07-2009 12:15 PM

hello mr ahmed how are you
i am considering joining pharmacy
what do you think?


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