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نبيل موريس جورج 04-09-2009 12:41 AM

تيجي نفكـــــــــــــــــــــــــر ( متجدد )
 

فكرة الموضوع هي فتح بـــــــاب الحوار بين عباقرة المنتدي وهي فكرة بدأها مستر عصام الجاويش له كل الشكر وكانت ناجحة جدا

ولكن فكرة هذا الموضوع هي عرض سؤال قدمه زميل الي محرر لونجمان ثم اعرض رد محرر لونجمان
ونفتح باب التعليق علي السؤال والرد

فقد نتفق او نختلف مع الرد ولكن في النهاية الفائده للجميع


ده الســــــــــــؤال
I have some questions about some sentences taken from Hello English, secondary two, unit one. A) A surgeon is someone who performs operations in hospital. B)In the early 1980s, he was part of the team which did the first heart transplant. Why didn't the writer put "a" before "hospital" and before "part"?

SenderSayed AhmedPositionTeacher


ده الــــــــــــــــــــرد
(A) I have not been able to find this sentence in the book. Can you please tell me what page it is on, in the TG, B, or WB? It should, of course, be a hospital or hospitals, and we will correct it in the next printing if the error is there. I cannot find the sentence.
(B) It is possible to say a part of the team but it is more idiomatic to say part of the team. So the sentence is correct as is.


المطـــــــــــــــوب
هل تتفق ام تختلف مع الحل ولماذا ؟؟؟؟؟؟
لطرح اسئلة أو التعليق علي فنيات في المنهج
http://www.longmansec.com.eg/Category.aspx
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Hamada Sabra 04-09-2009 01:58 AM

فكرة رائعة
انا كنت بكسل اتابع الاسئلة هناك
لو توفرت هنا وتم النقاش يبقى جميل

نبيل موريس جورج 04-09-2009 10:15 AM

To Whom it may concern
 
محتاجين نتناقش ونبحث

ده سؤال طرحته للنقاش من فترة أعترض فيه علي استخدام حرف جر قبل الظرف ولكن اغلب الردود اكدت امكانية هذا ...........!
وارسلت السؤال الي موقع لونجمان وكان الرد مقنع جدا .!!!!! منتظر تعليق


Could you explain this sentence in detail? It's hot in here. Why don't we say It's hot here. Is there a difference?


Editor's reply:
In the first sentence, here is a noun (meaning "the present place or juncture"), not an adverb. You say It's hot in here if you're talking about an enclosed place such as a room, tent, or building. In the second sentence, here is an adverb (meaning "at this point or in this location"). You say It's hot here if you're talking about an open place such as a garden, city, or country.

Mr. Medhat Salah 04-09-2009 10:35 AM

No thanking words can satisfy my desire to thank you , Sir

ابو بيشو 04-09-2009 02:31 PM

دائما موضوعات حضرتك فى الصميم يا مستر نبيل شكرا لحضرتك

نبيل موريس جورج 04-09-2009 05:53 PM

الموضوع للنقاش وابــــــــــداء الرائ ........!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ومنتظر رد اساتذة المنتدي
ولا نغير العنوان ونخليه تيجي نقفل الموضوع



نبيل موريس جورج 04-09-2009 06:15 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة نبيل موريس جورج (المشاركة 1560782)
فكرة الموضوع هي فتح بـــــــاب الحوار بين عباقرة المنتدي وهي فكرة بدأها مستر عصام الجاويش له كل الشكر وكانت ناجحة جدا

ولكن فكرة هذا الموضوع هي عرض سؤال قدمه زميل الي محرر لونجمان ثم اعرض رد محرر لونجمان
ونفتح باب التعليق علي السؤال والرد

فقد نتفق او نختلف مع الرد ولكن في النهاية الفائده للجميع


ده الســــــــــــؤال
I have some questions about some sentences taken from Hello English, secondary two, unit one. A) A surgeon is someone who performs operations in hospital. B)In the early 1980s, he was part of the team which did the first heart transplant. Why didn't the writer put "a" before "hospital" and before "part"?

SenderSayed AhmedPositionTeacher


ده الــــــــــــــــــــرد
(A) I have not been able to find this sentence in the book. Can you please tell me what page it is on, in the TG, B, or WB? It should, of course, be a hospital or hospitals, and we will correct it in the next printing if the error is there. I cannot find the sentence.
(B) It is possible to say a part of the team but it is more idiomatic to say part of the team. So the sentence is correct as is.


المطـــــــــــــــوب
هل تتفق ام تختلف مع الحل ولماذا ؟؟؟؟؟؟
لطرح اسئلة أو التعليق علي فنيات في المنهج
http://www.longmansec.com.eg/Category.aspx
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لا اتفق مع هذا الحل ( المصدر Practical English Usage
In some common fixed expressions to do with place, time and
movement, normally countable nouns are treated as uncountables, without articles. Examples are:
to! at! in! from school! university! college
to/at/in/into/from church bed/prison
toi /in/into/out of hospital (BrE) to!atlfrom work




A is usually dropped before part of if there is no adjective.
Part of the roof was missing. (B uT A large part of the roof was missing



نبيل موريس جورج 05-09-2009 11:09 PM

غريبة 86 مشاهدة و3 مشاركـات ولا واحد عبر عن رأيه غريبه علي الرغم ان السؤال الخاص بـــhere طرحته من قبل وأجمع اساتذة المنتدي علي امكانية ان يسبق الظرف بحر ف جـــــــــــــــــر ورد المحرر بيقول انها مش ظرف ؟؟؟ دي اســـــــــــــــــــم !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.websters-online-dictionar...efinition/here

نبيل موريس جورج 07-09-2009 07:08 PM

ما رايكم في هذا السؤال
Sec 2 WB p 34 ex. 1, number 1: "1970 was the year when/that my mother was born.

sayededu 07-09-2009 07:49 PM

انا رايي ان الحل هو When

نبيل موريس جورج 07-09-2009 11:18 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sayededu (المشاركة 1572617)
انا رايي ان الحل هو When

شاكر جدا لحضرتك يا مستر
مطلوب تعليق
ده السؤال
Sec 2 WB p 34 ex. 1, number 1: "1970 was the year when/that my mother was born." Can "that" replace "when" without a preposition? I mean, shouldn't the sentence be "1970 was the year that my
mother was born in"? Please clarify. Thanks
ده رد المحرر
Yes, it is perfectly OK to use that here without a preposition. One of the meanings of that as a pronoun is "at which; in which; on which; with which; to which". That works within the relative cause not only as a substitute for the noun, but also "to express a relation of conformity, agreement, or identity, especially in reference to time." (Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary)

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عاطف القاضى 07-09-2009 11:44 PM


I think the following sentences are both correct:

"1970 was the year when my mother was born
"1970 was the year that my mother was born in
When we use relative pronouns, we can use "where" as well as "which in or in which" with places whereas we can use "when"as well as " which on/in", "on/in which','that in/on "with adverb of time
EX-1- Alexandria is the place where I was born
2- Alexandria is the place which I was born in
3- Alexandria is the place in which I was born
4- January is the month when I was born
5- January is the month that I was born in
6-Monday is the day when my wife goes shopping
7- Monday is the day which my wife goes shopping on
8- Monday is the day that my wife goes shopping on

نبيل موريس جورج 08-09-2009 08:14 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة نبيل موريس جورج (المشاركة 1573398)
شاكر جدا لحضرتك يا مستر
مطلوب تعليق
ده السؤال
sec 2 wb p 34 ex. 1, number 1: "1970 was the year when/that my mother was born." can "that" replace "when" without a preposition? I mean, shouldn't the sentence be "1970 was the year that my
mother was born in"? Please clarify. Thanks
ده رد المحرر
yes, it is perfectly ok to use that here without a preposition. one of the meanings of that as a pronoun is "at which; in which; on which; with which; to which". That works within the relative cause not only as a substitute for the noun, but also "to express a relation of conformity, agreement, or identity, especially in reference to time." (merriam-webster unabridged dictionary)

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مستر عاطف شاكر لاهتمام حضرتك جدا
وأعتقد ان الجميع يتفق مع حضرتك فيما تفضلت بتوضيحه
ولكن من يتفق مع محرر لونجمان ؟؟

نبيل موريس جورج 16-09-2009 06:29 PM

سؤال رائع
Can "during" be followed by v + ing or a noun only
الرد
During can only be followed by a noun. During the summer, during lunch, etc.
Sometimes the verb + ing acts like a noun. It is then called a gerund. During can sometimes be followed by a gerund, for example During filming, the main actor had an accident. But this doesn't work with all gerunds (I can't say "during eating"). So you may see such gerunds in your reading, but it is best to avoid them in your own work unless you're sure that the usage is correct.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

مستر/ عصام الجاويش 17-09-2009 03:36 AM

جزاك الله خيرا يامستر نبيل


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