بوابة الثانوية العامة المصرية

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mostafa ali zaki 23-04-2010 06:44 AM

Are you puzzled too?
 
Hello every colleague
when we use mustn't to express prohibition it is the same as can't. is this right or there is a difference in meaning
for example we say
* You mustn't smoke here. It is against the law.:078111rg3:
We also say:
* You can't smoke here. It is against the law.
What do you think?

aboesha 23-04-2010 04:12 PM

i think that mustnot is more popular than canot and it has the meanong of prohibtion as the sentence says it is against the law
cannot:
ex:u can:T drive now,u don:T have alosence

Essam ABDOU 23-04-2010 04:28 PM

mustn`t = can`t when they are used for prohibition

No Difference

mostafa ali zaki 23-04-2010 10:06 PM

mustn`t = can`t when they are used for prohibition


No Difference
I agree with you Mr. but there are many sentences in senior mustn't and can't in the same sentence in unit 17
Have you noticed them?

Essam ABDOU 24-04-2010 09:26 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mostafa ali zaki (المشاركة 2124638)
mustn`t = can`t when they are used for prohibition


No Difference
I agree with you Mr. but there are many sentences in senior mustn't and can't in the same sentence in unit 17
Have you noticed them?

please quote the sentences you`re referring to

mostafa ali zaki 28-04-2010 12:28 AM

معلومات هامة لكل معلم أرجو الاهتمام
 
except for+N :040vk0:
I've done my homework except for the composition.
:mad:تستخدم قبل الاسم او العبارة الاسمية
except (for) after all and any no everything whole
I 've read all the articles except for the last one.:028ja7:
Nobdy agreeed except for Esam.
تستخدم بعد الكلمات الدالة على التعميم مثل all- any- everyone- nobody -whole ولكن عندما تاتى اول الجملة نستخدم except for فقط وليس except
Exept for Maher and Lames, all my friends liked the idea.
فى حالة حروف الجر والروابط تستخدم except بدون for
He is goodlooking except when he smiles.
بعد الضمائر نستخدم except او except for
We are all ready except for him.
لاحظ الضمير المستخدم يكون ضمير مفعول وليس فاعل:022yb4:

مستر/ عصام الجاويش 28-04-2010 01:05 AM

شكرا لك
ولكن الاولى ان يكون العنوان معلومات هامه للطلاب لان الاهم هو توصيل المعلومه الجميله دى للطالب

Mr.Shaaban 28-04-2010 09:19 AM

ص ح

mostafa ali zaki 28-04-2010 01:42 PM

I appreciate your wonderful remark and am going to be more careful next time.

mostafa ali zaki 28-04-2010 01:45 PM

Really I didn't mean any offence. sorry

mostafa ali zaki 28-04-2010 05:20 PM

عاجل وهام لكل الاساتذة الافاضل ارجو المساعدة
 
Choose:excl:
1-.healthy diet of fruit and vegetables could prevent disease..................
a) A b the c) no article
2-Maged is ................. of the two.
a)tall b)the taller c) the tallest d) the tall
3-She .......................when she graduates
a) will get married b) is going to get married c) is getting married :giljotiiniug3:

mr_moh55555 28-04-2010 06:29 PM

She .......................when she graduates
a) will get married b) is going to get married c) is getting married


ال 3 اجابات acceptable

mr_moh55555 28-04-2010 06:48 PM

healthy diet of fruit and vegetables could prevent disease..................
a) A b the c) no article

mr.ahmedabdelwahed 28-04-2010 09:15 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mostafa ali zaki (المشاركة 2133317)
except for+N :040vk0:
I've done my homework except for the composition.
:mad:تستخدم قبل الاسم او العبارة الاسمية
except (for) after all and any no everything whole
I 've read all the articles except for the last one.:028ja7:
Nobdy agreeed except for Esam.
تستخدم بعد الكلمات الدالة على التعميم مثل all- any- everyone- nobody -whole ولكن عندما تاتى اول الجملة نستخدم except for فقط وليس except
Exept for Maher and Lames, all my friends liked the idea.
فى حالة حروف الجر والروابط تستخدم except بدون for
He is goodlooking except when he smiles.
بعد الضمائر نستخدم except او except for
We are all ready except for him.
لاحظ الضمير المستخدم يكون ضمير مفعول وليس فاعل:022yb4:


معلومات قيمة جدا ولكن لى اضافة هامة

يمكن ان نستخدم
except
مع فعل مباشرة
He does nothing ecxept eat all day
He does nothing except eating all day
لاحظ ان الفعل يمكن ان يكون مصدر او فعل+ing

mostafa ali zaki 28-04-2010 09:46 PM

thanks
 
اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr.ahmedabdelwahed (المشاركة 2135041)
معلومات قيمة جدا ولكن لى اضافة هامة

يمكن ان نستخدم
except
مع فعل مباشرة
He does nothing ecxept eat all day
He does nothing except eating all day
لاحظ ان الفعل يمكن ان يكون مصدر او فعل+ing

thanks for your important bonus
I raelly enjoy being there with you


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