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Dr.Noha Sami 09-05-2011 11:00 PM

ارجو الاجابه من مدرس ضرورى
 
The English travellers were crossing deserts and jungles .(not only....but also)
I like vegetables and fruit .( not only ..but also)
اجابة الاسئله دى هتبقى
the English travelars were crossing not only deserts but also jungles>
ولا
The english travellars weren't only crossing deserts but also they crossing jungles
والسؤال التانى هيبقى
I don't only like vegetables but I also like fruit؟؟؟؟؟

ارجو الاجابه من مدرس لان الموضوع ده ملخبطنى

ايه سيد 09-05-2011 11:08 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة صفا2010 (المشاركة 3396775)
The English travellers were crossing deserts and jungles .(not only....but also)
I like vegetables and fruit .( not only ..but also)
اجابة الاسئله دى هتبقى
the English travelars were crossing not only deserts but also jungles>
ولا دى الاجابات الصحيحه
The english travellars weren't only crossing deserts but also theywere crossing jungles
والسؤال التانى هيبقى
I don't only like vegetables but I also like fruit .
ارجو الاجابه من مدرس لان الموضوع ده ملخبطنى

وخلى بالك مدام مفيه فعل مساعد مثل (is -are -was -were-) وكده يعنى يتحطو فى الجملتين مع not only ..but also
ومتتلخبطيش خالص وربنا معاكى

Dr.Noha Sami 09-05-2011 11:16 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ايه سيد (المشاركة 3396795)
وخلى بالك مدام مفيه فعل مساعد مثل (is -are -was -were-) وكده يعنى يتحطو فى الجملتين مع not only ..but also
ومتتلخبطيش خالص وربنا معاكى

شكرا يا آيه على ردك بس ده معنا ان الاتنين ينفعوا؟

Mr.Ahmed EL-hady 10-05-2011 02:20 PM

لو الفعل واحد ومفعولين مختلفين نتبع القاعده الاتيه

امثله:
He played for Al Ahli. He played for Zamalek
He not only played for Al ahli ,but he also played for zamalek غلط
الصح كده:
He played not only for Al Ahli, but also for Zamalek


مثال تاني
They ate apples and ice cream
They not only ate apples, but they also ate ice ream غلط
الصح
They ate not only apples, but also ice cream

تاني
she is a good wife and a good mother as well
she is not only a good wife ,but also a good mother صح

تاني
Hady speaks English and french
Hady not only speaks English ,but he also speaks french غلط
الصح
Hady speaks not only English , but also french


يعني لما يكون عندي فعل واحد ومفعولين مختلفين
subj. + main verb + not only ......Object 1.. but also + object2

The English travellers were crossing not only deserts but also jungles
دي اللي صح

الفاعل عندي English travellers
الفعل الاساسي were crossing
, ومفعولين مختلفين هما deserts , junlges ومربطوين بكلمة and


Safaa studied English and maths
Safaa studied not only English but also maths
مينفعش اقول
Safaa not only studied English but she also studied maths

انا لما اقول safaa not only studied English هنا انا بتوقع انها عملت فعل تاني في الجمله التانيه غير المذاكره

اقول مثلا
Safaa not only studied English but she also watched Tv كده صح
في عندي فعلين مختلفين studied , watched
وممكن اقول safaa not only studied English but also watched tv برضو صح

Dr.Noha Sami 10-05-2011 06:59 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr.hady (المشاركة 3398332)
لو الفعل واحد ومفعولين مختلفين نتبع القاعده الاتيه

امثله:
He played for Al Ahli. He played for Zamalek
He not only played for Al ahli ,but he also played for zamalek غلط
الصح كده:
He played not only for Al Ahli, but also for Zamalek


مثال تاني
They ate apples and ice cream
They not only ate apples, but they also ate ice ream غلط
الصح
They ate not only apples, but also ice cream

تاني
she is a good wife and a good mother as well
she is not only a good wife ,but also a good mother صح

تاني
Hady speaks English and french
Hady not only speaks English ,but he also speaks french غلط
الصح
Hady speaks not only English , but also french


يعني لما يكون عندي فعل واحد ومفعولين مختلفين
subj. + main verb + not only ......Object 1.. but also + object2

The English travellers were crossing not only deserts but also jungles
دي اللي صح

الفاعل عندي English travellers
الفعل الاساسي were crossing
, ومفعولين مختلفين هما deserts , junlges ومربطوين بكلمة and


Safaa studied English and maths
Safaa studied not only English but also maths
مينفعش اقول
Safaa not only studied English but she also studied maths

انا لما اقول safaa not only studied English هنا انا بتوقع انها عملت فعل تاني في الجمله التانيه غير المذاكره

اقول مثلا
Safaa not only studied English but she also watched Tv كده صح
في عندي فعلين مختلفين studied , watched
وممكن اقول safaa not only studied English but also watched tv برضو صح

شكرااااااااا جدا يامستر على رد حضرتك
بس ممكن بعد اذن حضرتك تشوف كتاب المدرسه unit16 ص35
في الفقره الاولى مكتوب
He didn't only take treasures ,but he also took things like food ..........
مش هنا برده فعل واحد ومفعولين مختلفين ؟؟ وكمان في كتاب Bit by Bit ص218 معموله بالطريقه دى !! ارجو حضرتك توضحلى عشان الموضوع ده لخبطنى اوى
آسفه انى بتعب حضرتك

Mr.Ahmed EL-hady 10-05-2011 08:31 PM

The "not only ... but also " construction is showing a relationship (comparison or contrast) between two completed actions that are expressed by verbs in the past tense.

The two verbs must be in precisely the same form to make the relationship clear.
she didn't only write poems but she also selected photos
That is why "did write", and "selected" does not fit the grammatical pattern, but "wrote" and "selected" does fit. The pattern is:


Not only (action 1) but also (action 2)







The Rule: In the not only . . . but also construction, the two items connected must be similar in kind.

So:

Wrong: He not only painted the "Annunciation" but also [painted] the "Mona Lisa."
Right: He painted not only the "Annunciation" but also the "Mona Lisa."

Wrong: He not only played for Washington but also for Detroit and Pittsburgh.
Right: He played not only for Washington but also for Detroit and Pittsburgh.


Wrong: He not only coached soccer but also tennis.
Right: He coached not only soccer but also tennis.

Right: He taught not only physics and chemistry but also algebra and geometry.

Right: He not only taught five periods a day but also coached three sports



by Mignon Fogarty

When not only is followed by but also (or simply but), it's considered good form to make sure the parts that follow each set of words are formatted the same way.
He is not only a great swimmer, but also a great musician. (Good: the sentence uses two noun clauses, which are underlined.)
He is not only a great swimmer, but also plays amazing music. (Bad: the sentence uses a noun clause and a verb clause. It's bad because they don't match.)

الكلام اللي فوق ده من مواقع خاصه بالجرامر


وبالنسبه للجمله اللي في الكتاب
انا عن نفسي هقول:

Not only did they take treasures but they also took other things

او
They took not only treasures but also other things

انما
They didn't only take treasrure but they also took other things ) بصراحه كده شكلها وحش
والجرامر ملوش قاعده ثابته .. في الاخر هو تذوق

ممكن الجمله تبقي صح بس في صيغه احسن منها




esraaaide 11-05-2011 12:46 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة صفا2010 (المشاركة 3396775)
the english travellers were crossing deserts and jungles .(not only....but also)
i like vegetables and fruit .( not only ..but also)
اجابة الاسئله دى هتبقى
the english travelars were crossing not only deserts but also jungles>
ولا
the english travellars weren't only crossing deserts butthey were also crossing jungles
والسؤال التانى هيبقى
i don't only like vegetables but i also like fruit؟؟؟؟؟

ارجو الاجابه من مدرس لان الموضوع ده ملخبطنى

كدة يبقى اجابة السوال الاول صح والتانى انتى حلاه صح

Dr.Noha Sami 11-05-2011 10:48 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mr.hady (المشاركة 3399480)
the "not only ... But also " construction is showing a relationship (comparison or contrast) between two completed actions that are expressed by verbs in the past tense.

the two verbs must be in precisely the same form to make the relationship clear.
she didn't only write poems but she also selected photos
that is why "did write", and "selected" does not fit the grammatical pattern, but "wrote" and "selected" does fit. The pattern is:


not only (action 1) but also (action 2)







the rule: In the not only . . . But also construction, the two items connected must be similar in kind.

so:

wrong: He not only painted the "annunciation" but also [painted] the "mona lisa."
right: He painted not only the "annunciation" but also the "mona lisa."

wrong: He not only played for washington but also for detroit and pittsburgh.
right: He played not only for washington but also for detroit and pittsburgh.


wrong: He not only coached soccer but also tennis.
right: He coached not only soccer but also tennis.

right: He taught not only physics and chemistry but also algebra and geometry.

right: He not only taught five periods a day but also coached three sports



by mignon fogarty

when not only is followed by but also (or simply but), it's considered good form to make sure the parts that follow each set of words are formatted the same way.
he is not only a great swimmer, but also a great musician. (good: The sentence uses two noun clauses, which are underlined.)
he is not only a great swimmer, but also plays amazing music. (bad: The sentence uses a noun clause and a verb clause. It's bad because they don't match.)

الكلام اللي فوق ده من مواقع خاصه بالجرامر


وبالنسبه للجمله اللي في الكتاب
انا عن نفسي هقول:

not only did they take treasures but they also took other things

او
they took not only treasures but also other things

انما
they didn't only take treasrure but they also took other things ) بصراحه كده شكلها وحش
والجرامر ملوش قاعده ثابته .. في الاخر هو تذوق

ممكن الجمله تبقي صح بس في صيغه احسن منها




شكرااااااا جدا يا مستر هادى على اجابة حضرتك
هو فعلا الموضوع ده كان ملخبطنى لان المستر فى الفصل شرحلنا القاعده بنظام كتاب المدرسه وبت باى بت بس لقيت مدرسين تانيين بيقولوها زى حضرتك فبقيت مش عرفه ايه اللى صح!!
وجزاك الله كل خير


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