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صفحة 53 بقصة سجين زندا الفصل السادس
when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed. اعتقد ان he يجب ان تستبدل ب I عائدة على ردولف او we لتعود على ردولف وصحبته هل معى حق؟ |
أعتقد ان كلامك تمام مستر أحمد
تقبل الله منك هذا المجهود |
Sorry sirs,
HE is correct. It refers to Fritz von Tarlenheim. His relative (an uncle) owns the country house and that`s why he (Fritz) was asked if they could use it (to be near the real king`s prison in the castle of Zenda in a plan to save him) and he (Fritz) agreed. Best Regards |
اقتباس:
1- ان الجملة الموجوده فى النص مش مجهول بل معلوم لذلك نسبتها الى فريتز 2- لم يعط النص اهتماما ولو جملة قالها صاحب المنزل وطبعا حضرتك عارف ان احنا مطالبين بنص المدرسة وليس النص العالمى و حضرتك ذكرت فى ردك الاتى Fritz was asked if they could use it مع ان النص فى كتاب المدرسة جابها معلوم when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip شكرا لك وننتظر راى باقى الزملاء وخاصة الاستاذ عصام وهبه |
You`re right about the active - I read it 'was asked'
In that case "He" is also correct and it refers to Fritz`s relative, not Rudolf Best Regards |
اقتباس:
صح هذكرك بالفقرة كلها لتحللها مرة اخرى ومعك زملائنا الاعزاء بالمنتدى About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed |
اقتباس:
وهذكر حضرتك بالفقره كامله مع التركيز والربط بينها وبين الجمله About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so[B] when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed[/B عايزين راى باقى زملائنا |
Firstly, I didn`t look at any other edition in dealing with these sentences.
Secondly: step by step - Who has a country house? - Who doesn`t often visit the house? - Who would Fritz ask to take permission? - Who agreed? The answer to all these questions is HE = Fritz`s relative If still not convinced, What does He in "He does not often visit the house" refer to? Surely to the nearest person, relative of Fritz - not Fritz himself What does He in "He happily agreed" refer to? Also, the answer to both questions is HE = Fritz`s relative Best Regards |
اقتباس:
رايك اتغير يا مستر عصام انت قلت فى البداية انه فريتز بعد كده دلوقتى بتقول قريبه ودى بس هى المقنعه بس لى تعقيب برده على كاتب القصة ولو حد تانى من الناس اللى قرء بتانى النص يلاحظها الفقرة دى لما تم اختصارها بشكلها الحالى احدثت هذا الجدل ---صح |
بفضل من الله تم الانتهاء من المناقشة واشكر الاستاذ عصام عبده عليها جدا ونتيجتها (لكى تعم الفائدة) هى
ان الفقرة الاتية About eight kilometres from Zenda, on the opposite side of the town to where the castle stands, there is a leafy wood on a low hill. On top of the hill is a large, modem country house called Tarlenheim which belongs to a relative of Fritz. He does not often visit the house, so when Fritz asked if we could use it for a hunting trip, he happily agreed. [B][COLOR="Pink"]الضمير he هنا يعود على قريب فريتز الذى يملك المنزل [COLOR="DarkRed"]] |
اقتباس:
Thank you for the discussion. When I said "you`re right", it meant I was wrong. I read it in the passive at first. Anyway, what we miss are discussions like these based on mutual respect, with knowledge and also competition. We need to revive these real discussions which were a common feature of this forum a few years ago. We also need EVERYONE to participate. Have a blessed Friday! Best Regards |
اقتباس:
May Allah bless you and never barred from your knowledge and concern |
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