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نبيل موريس جورج 28-03-2009 09:14 PM

جملة معترض علي حلها
 
لو سمحتم أريد رد كل اساتذة المنتدي علي هذه الجملة
The school (which / where) Iattended has only one classroom.

meroadel 28-03-2009 09:20 PM

يعنى اية حضرتك عاوز الترجمة علشان بس افهم سؤال حضرتك

meroadel 28-03-2009 09:22 PM

ولا اختار من اللى بين الاقواس

نبيل موريس جورج 28-03-2009 09:31 PM

[quote=نبيل موريس جورج;1149853]لو سمحتم أريد رد كل اساتذة المنتدي علي هذه الجملة
Choose
The school(which / where) I attended has only one classroom.

محمد أبوشليل 28-03-2009 10:14 PM

Where هى الادق

Mr Mosaad El Hegazy 28-03-2009 11:26 PM

the answer is where

magy222 29-03-2009 12:26 AM

where لانattendفعل متعدى فى هذه الجملة

magy222 29-03-2009 12:29 AM

for example the flat where i live has 3 rooms

magy222 29-03-2009 12:31 AM

لكن the party which i attended was crowded

himaokab 29-03-2009 12:47 AM

the school has one classroom . i attended in it .
so i can say to link them together :
the schhol where i attended , has one classroom
we replace ( in it ) by the relative pronoun where
as it refers to place

احمدالجناينى 29-03-2009 01:20 AM

The answer is where because it describes the place I attend in it definitely
Best wishes

نبيل موريس جورج 29-03-2009 10:11 PM

شاكر لكل من شارك لكن الجملة دي كويسة انا حليتها where اول ما جاءتلي لكن دلوقتي اميل الي which ايه رايكم

ali ahmed 3 29-03-2009 10:35 PM

me too I think both of them are correct
if we regarded school as a building ,we can use'where'
but if we rgarded school as a curriculum=course I think we can use 'which'
(the same with the word( class)

leaderboss 29-03-2009 11:01 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ali ahmed 3 (المشاركة 1151981)
me too I think both of them are correct
if we regarded school as a building ,we can use'where'
but if we rgarded school as a curriculum=course I think we can use 'which'
(the same with the word( class)


I agree with you, sir
both are right

alshamedaan 30-03-2009 12:14 AM

think (which) is better than where as u describe the school as a building consisting of one classroom . despite the idea of attending .

الأستاذ نادي ربيع 31-03-2009 03:50 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ali ahmed 3 (المشاركة 1151981)
me too I think both of them are correct
if we regarded school as a building ,we can use'where'
but if we rgarded school as a curriculum=course I think we can use 'which'
(the same with the word( class)

اتفق مع الزميل العزيز
و ان كنت اميل اكثر الى where
و يمكن استخدام which فى حالة وجود حرف الجر in

taraweesh 31-03-2009 04:28 PM

The correct answer is "Which" because the verb attend is followed by the place without preposition.
I attend school. correct
I attend in school. incorrect
the relative pronoun "where" must replace a place adverb not an object. In other words the pronoun where replaces a preposition + noun or the word "there"

ancient mariner 01-04-2009 02:47 PM

the best answer for this sentence is
The school which I attended
because teh question doesn't talk about school as a place here

Egyknight 06-04-2009 08:39 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة نبيل موريس جورج (المشاركة 1149853)
لو سمحتم أريد رد كل اساتذة المنتدي علي هذه الجملة
The school (which / where) I attended has only one classroom.

The original two sentences are:
The school has one classroom . I attended in it .
where refers to the place I attend in it
but if we regard to school as a course. the classroom is a place and doesn't`keep in step with a course.
SO
The best answer is (Where)

Mr Saber Aboziad Abd Elma 07-04-2009 09:29 PM

I think the best answer is of course
{ where } because we refer to it as aplace when we say has one class

taraweesh 07-04-2009 09:54 PM

يا حونا attend لايأتى بعدها حرف جر أبدا
I can't say "attend in school

ايمن ابو كريم المنياوى 08-04-2009 11:47 PM

Minia secondary school for girls
 
In my opinion the best answer to this sentence is which not wheras we
don't use preposition with attend

ezzatmina 09-04-2009 07:45 AM

I think that the correct answer should b" which I attend Because school here i referred to as a thing like a course it is not refered to a s a place .What makes this opinion more probable is using the verb attend not go

محمود مان 09-04-2009 08:47 PM

الادق where لان الجملة تتحدث عن المدرسة المكان

ahmed.nabil155 10-04-2009 08:28 PM

The answer is where because it describes the place I attend in it definitely

نبيل موريس جورج 11-04-2009 09:55 PM

شاكر للجميع علي المررو ولكن اعتقد الاجابة which هي الاجابة الصحيحة

kh2mh 26-04-2009 06:31 PM

which هي الاجابة الصحيحة

abdrabu62 26-04-2009 08:10 PM

Which is the correct answer
 
Dear Mr. Nabil
I think the correct answer is WHICH not where
In your example "SCHOOL" is the direct object of the verb ATTEND
We say: attend the funeral / class / a meeting ....etc.
We also say: Which school do your children attend? -
- The school which my children attend is called Al Fustat
Here is An Easy Test to decide whether to use WHICH or WHERE
Use the word replaced by the relative pronoun after the verb that comes after it
1. If that word requires an adverb particle "e.g. in, on, at, under, below ....etc. before it, then it refers to place or position. In this case we must use WHERE
Example
The place (which / where) he was born is Tanta.
Note: He was born in this place./ in Tanta / in it
Here the correct answer is "WHERE"
2. If that word does not require an adverb particle, it is a direct object of the verb preceding it. In this case we have to use WHICH
Example
The place (which / where) we visited last week was fascinating
Note: We visited that place. We visited it
In this case we are using `place` as mere object. So we must use "WHICH or THAT"
BEST REGARDS

Sw0rdD 27-04-2009 05:02 AM

The right answer is beyond doubt 'which'. If you are not sure look in the following link
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/The_school...chill_attended

mahmoud_sagan 29-04-2009 01:40 PM

The answer is where

محمد غازى تمراز 29-04-2009 03:23 PM

the answer is where because it refers tothe place

محمد غازى تمراز 29-04-2009 03:27 PM

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حاتم الشربينى 03-05-2009 06:16 AM

I think where is the best choice as it refers to a place & the school is a place

nadora_rewesh 04-05-2009 12:48 PM

الحل الصحيح هو where لعدم وجود حرف جـــــــــر

shorouk ashra 06-05-2009 12:56 AM

If we answer it by sense I think it is WHICH

انا نحن 23-06-2009 12:08 AM

الاجابة اصلا ما تنفعش الا where ولو كان فيه in كانت الاجابة هتكون which

battota_111 23-06-2009 01:57 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة نبيل موريس جورج (المشاركة 1149853)
لو سمحتم أريد رد كل اساتذة المنتدي علي هذه الجملة
The school (which / where) Iattended has only one classroom.

The school in which I attended has only one classroom
The school which I attended in has only one classroom
The school where I attended has only one classroom

Mr. ABDELHADY 23-06-2009 03:28 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة نبيل موريس جورج (المشاركة 1149853)
لو سمحتم أريد رد كل اساتذة المنتدي علي هذه الجملة
The school (which / where) I attended has only one classroom


which
I think is the only possible answer , as attend is like visit = have no prepositions and only used after : which
REGARDS
:redface:

quicksilver 23-06-2009 03:51 PM

Hi, thanks for care. As far as I am concerned, I think the most definite answers are:

- The school where I attended .......
But we can also say: - The school which I attended in ........

Mr Osama Ahmad 23-06-2009 04:10 PM

Of course the answer is where not which
The sentence says the school .. I attended has one classroom.
so it is a place not anything else

Look at these sentences and compare
The house which I bought has three rooms.
The house where I live has three rooms.

ينابيع الحب 23-06-2009 05:31 PM

Hi everybody ,many great thanks for every body here,your efforts and your answers are splendid ,but,we should know the difference between:(which) and (where) :We use (which) after any place to show the discription of it.Let me elicitate the example above :The house which I bought has three rooms.this example shows the discription of the place.When we use (where) after any place ,we point out that place we work or live in regularly.(ATTEND) WITH PLACE MEANS GO THERE REGULARLY So the answer will be (where) as you go there regularly .you may work there or study there.Thanks for eveyone

ينابيع الحب 23-06-2009 05:38 PM

REMEMBER: We use (where) after any place to show the purpose of it not to describe it.

دكتور محمود فتحي 23-06-2009 08:41 PM

فى اللغة الانجليزية تحل which محل المكان فى حالتين
اولا لو ارتبطت which بحرف جر او تم فصل حرف الجر عنها مع وجوده فى الجملة والجميع متفق على تلك الحالة
I went to the library where I read a very good book
I went to the library in which I read a very good book
I went to the library which I read a very good book in.
2- ثم نأتى للحالة الثانية وفى هذه الحالة لو تبعت جملة الوصل بالفعل مباشرة يجب أن تستخدم which ( لتشير للمكان كفاعل ) لانها فى هذه الحالة تحل محل الفاعل ( المكان ) بمعنى أن where لا يمكن أن تحل محل الفاعل هنا فنستخدم

which
لتقوم بعملها
...
ولو لاحظنا هنا سنجد اننا نتكلم عن المكان كشيء وليس كمكان ايضا لذلك سيفسرها البعض انها من حيث المعنى أقوى ولكنها قاعدة واضحة فى ضمائر الوصل
1- فى حالة وجود حرف الجر فى الجملة سواء سبقت بحرف الجر أو تم فصل حرف الجر عنها
They demolished the old house which was about to collapse

يا جماعة لو هانختار where هاتكون الجملة كدة
the school where I attended a course has only.........



mizotiger 23-06-2009 09:37 PM

الكلمة Iattended مش ليها أصل فى القاموس فلو سمحت تحط جمل ترجمتها مفهومة

mizotiger 23-06-2009 09:38 PM

كل اللى جاوبو مش فاهمين معنى الجملة ايه فلو سمحوا اللى جاوبوا يوضحولى معنى Iattended او ترجمة الجملة بأكملها

n_g 23-06-2009 10:39 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة mizotiger (المشاركة 1344811)
كل اللى جاوبو مش فاهمين معنى الجملة ايه فلو سمحوا اللى جاوبوا يوضحولى معنى Iattended او ترجمة الجملة بأكملها

ملحوظة هى I attended;)

Mr. ABDELHADY 23-06-2009 10:49 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة n_g (المشاركة 1345013)
ملحوظة هى I attended;)

معنى I attended درست فيها- حضرت دروسي فيها

Mr. ABDELHADY 23-06-2009 10:52 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ينابيع الحب (المشاركة 1344178)
Hi everybody ,many great thanks for every body here,your efforts and your answers are splendid ,but,we should know the difference between:(which) and (where) :We use (which) after any place to show the discription of it.Let me elicitate the example above :The house which I bought has three rooms.this example shows the discription of the place.When we use (where) after any place ,we point out that place we work or live in regularly.(ATTEND) WITH PLACE MEANS GO THERE REGULARLY So the answer will be (where) as you go there regularly .you may work there or study there.Thanks for eveyone


دي تعريفات نظرية ضيفي لها إن where لازم يكون بعدها حرف جر محذوف

الإجابة which لأن attend مبتخدش حرف جر
و زي ما قلت لحضراتكم :
which
I think is the only possible answer , as attend is like visit = have no prepositions and only used after : which

REGARDS
:redface:

Mr Osama Ahmad 23-06-2009 11:47 PM

Sorry my dear friends
But I insist on Where
You can see here
http://www.usingenglish.com/quizzes/answers.php?id=373

ينابيع الحب 24-06-2009 07:39 AM

Good morning everyone .My dear colleagues when I say the answer is (where) not (which),I intend to point out to focus on (attend). Please Mr.ABDELHADY ,Don't tackle the subject on one side, your answer should be based on all meaning and all words.You and with many presisted in having preposition with (which) or (attend) that's wrong ;so your answers are dipped down.I said before: ATTEND WITH PLACES MEANS :GO TO THIS PLACE REGULARLY (EVERY DAY),THAT MEANS YOU WORK OR STUDY OR.....ETC(YOU GO THERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THAT PLACE).TO SUM UP WE CAN SAY THAT(WHERE) IS USED TO ILLUSTRATE THE PURPOSE OF THE PLACE.(WHICH) IS USED TO SHOW THE DISCRIPTION OF THE PLACE.REMEMBER (WHERE=IN WHICH=WHICH...IN) SO THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM.
ENJOY YOUR TIME.
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